Trump triumphs again

You do realise these sort of questions are stupid?
you said its great the Trump is deporting "scum"

but when I ask how you know they are scum..........apparently thats a stupid question :unsure:

On this topic, is it possible some of those being deported aren't scum? Of course
Is it possible the vast majority are simply undocumented people who work very hard on low wages?

do you think people who work hard on low wages doing the jobs that Americans dont want to do are scum?

these people for example:
 
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"no action or results"..............thats f***** bolox

do you call this "no action or results":

271,000 immigrants were deported from the US during 2024
What real difference does it make scooping water out a leaking boat if you don't fix the leak ...
 
Well trump is all for clearing the palistinians / hamas out of Gaza

Blimey were would they go ? No one wants them ???

Perhaps the Germans or French could step up ??

Than again the UK is building 1.5 million houses ;)

Falkland Islands ???

Greenland ?
 
Well trump is all for clearing the palistinians / hamas out of Gaza

Blimey were would they go ? No one wants them ???

Perhaps the Germans or French could step up ??

Than again the UK is building 1.5 million houses ;)

Falkland Islands ???

Greenland ?

He's twistin your melon man.


US President Donald Trump dropped a bombshell on Tuesday when he announced that the United States will take over the Gaza Strip for the foreseeable future.

With his declaration, Trump has once again thrown a diplomatic grenade into the Middle East conversation - not a particularly quiet region at the best of times and one beset by 15 months of war.. The proposal—one that envisions the US developing Gaza, creating jobs, and turning it into an international hub—immediately triggered widespread backlash. The Palestinians see it as a veiled attempt at forced displacement, Israel remains cautious, and Arab states like Egypt and Jordan swiftly rejected the idea.

On the face of it, Trump’s plan is not remotely feasible. The US military occupying Gaza is a logistical and political nightmare. Some 20 years of experience in dealing with Iraq and Afghanistan will have taught the upper echelons in the Pentagon that. Arab states would never publicly accept a mass Palestinian exodus onto their soil. Even Israel, despite its frustration with Hamas, understands the consequences of such a move. But here’s the thing—Trump probably knows that, too. The former president is not proposing a realistic strategy. He’s making an opening bid in a negotiation.

This is Trumpian negotiation 101, lifted straight from his 1987 book The Art of the Deal. In Trump’s world, you start with an extreme demand—one that is so outrageous it shifts the boundaries of what was previously considered possible. Then, when the inevitable pushback comes, you negotiate down to something that, while far less extreme than your initial position, is still a big win. You aim for 100, knowing that landing at 50 is still a success.

Trump’s track record in real estate and politics could suggest that his goal isn’t to occupy Gaza—it’s to force neighboring Arab nations, who have up until now dragged their feet, to take a more active role in solving the crisis. His assumption? That the shock of such a radical proposal will jolt Egypt, Jordan, and the Gulf states into stepping up in ways they have so far refused to.

For decades, Arab nations have loudly supported the Palestinian cause but done little to materially improve the situation in Gaza beyond funneling money to Hamas. Egypt, which once ruled Gaza, keeps its border tightly sealed, building barriers that make Israel’s security walls look lenient by comparison. Jordan, already home to a massive Palestinian population, wants no part of an influx from Gaza. Meanwhile, wealthy Gulf states, despite their enormous resources, have largely avoided offering Palestinian refugees permanent resettlement or serious infrastructure investments in Gaza.

By throwing out a seemingly preposterous plan, Trump may be forcing these countries to react—if only to reject his idea and propose an alternative. Suddenly, discussions about how to rebuild Gaza, who will govern it, and where displaced Palestinians might go shift from a vague, open-ended conversation to one with real stakes.


What are the obstacles?

To be very clear: The changes of the US taking over Gaza are close to zero. The idea is riddled with insurmountable obstacles.

First and foremost, Trump was re-elected on his renewed position of America First. Changing trade agreements and diplomatic relationships with other countries is intended to improve the domestic lives of ordinary Americans. Suddenly switching to occupying a foreign piece of land is a cost that is unlikely to pass a Republican-controlled Congress eager to reduce overseas military entanglements. The American public has no appetite for another Middle East quagmire.

The comments also go against the military record of the previous Trump administration.


 
if you actually read between the lines and see what he is trying to say, ignore all the trumpisms. It's not a terrible idea.

I'm guessing he is thinking of some sort of Cancun in the med?
 
if you actually read between the lines and see what he is trying to say, ignore all the trumpisms. It's not a terrible idea.

I'm guessing he is thinking of some sort of Cancun in the med?

I disagree, I'm with the article that Donald has lobbed in a political hand grenade as a starting point to negotiations and to stir a few others into action, besides, Saudi wouldn't wear it, and Saudi are the new head honcho.

Wonder if it would be 'all inclusive'?
 
if you actually read between the lines and see what he is trying to say, ignore all the trumpisms. It's not a terrible idea.

I'm guessing he is thinking of some sort of Cancun in the med?
Trump gets right to the point, straight talking. That's what the established machine around the world's woes don't like about him ... i.e. he's actually coming up with solutions, not endless talking year in year out that leads NOWHERE, however what it does do is keep the talkers in a job.
 
Like "grab em by the pussy"? Pmsl...
If that's the best you've got to contribute to the debate ...

Trump's the large pebble dropped into the water, folk don't like the lovely ripples he's creating. Seeing through all the waffle, all the gravy-train'ers, all the bullsh1t.

Trump will get it done. Pity we don't have any politicians with the same attitude and gravitas.
 
The middle east is unsolvable, trumpf's goal is a third term
 
If that's the best you've got to contribute to the debate ...
He's morally corrupt while being a convicted felon and rapist. He's trying to bully other leaders as if it's a back street property deal that he's used to. You seem to admire him for that, I certainly don't.

You bang on about sentences fitting the crime yet you think he's fantastic. Weird.
 
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