Ukraine counter offensive

If you're looking through the thousands of years of countries being conquered, splitting, merging and generally ensuring map-makers stay in work then no country has the right to exist.

Countries exist at the meeting point of how much people feel like they are the same as others and inertia.
True: Globalisation was meant to remove those borders and break down (trade) barriers between people. Nationalists weren't ready for this and fed the fear til the bubble burst.
 
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The US is considering giving Ukraine Bradley IFVs.

They aren't tanks but they mount TOW missiles that can kill tanks at long range and a cannon that can penetrate T72 armour at close range.

It looks like the trend is for the West to gradually increase the capability and range of weapons we send. French light tanks are now being sent as well.

We might start seeing old NATO main battle tanks being delivered this year.
 
The US is considering giving Ukraine Bradley IFVs.

They aren't tanks but they mount TOW missiles that can kill tanks at long range and a cannon that can penetrate T72 armour at close range.

It looks like the trend is for the West to gradually increase the capability and range of weapons we send. French light tanks are now being sent as well.

We might start seeing old NATO main battle tanks being delivered this year.

The Bradleys and the French light tanks seem like a substantial escalation. I don't know much about military strategy, so I don't know what use they will be put to, or what sort of warfare they are suited to. But presumably Ukraine have asked for them. What role might main battle tanks play in this stage of the war? The Russians seemed to have theirs wiped out pretty easily when they invaded. I remember in Iraq the Bradley's cannon would take out pretty much anything short of a main battle tank, and seemed to be good in urban warfare.
 
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Mean while the Russians will continue to launch missile attacks from across the border un opposed ? Wreaking havoc on Ukranian infrastructure
 
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Mean while the Russians will continue to launch missile attacks from across the border un opposed ?
A mix of air sea and land launches.

It seems there wlll be a Russian cease fire for Xmas shortly. Might have started. Not sure.
 
The Bradleys and the French light tanks seem like a substantial escalation.

When the Russians have already invaded with thousands of MBTs, I don't think a hundred or so light vehicles by their opponents is an escalation.

I did notice that some of the kit being sent is old stuff left over from the first cold war, some of it designed in the 1960s and 1970s. I suppose that makes sense when it will be up against old Soviet T72s and the like.
 
It seems there wlll be a Russian cease fire for Xmas shortly. Might have started. Not sure.
From Nexta

Putin instructed Shoygu to introduce a ceasefire along the entire frontline in Ukraine from 12:00 on January 6 to 24:00 on January 7.

From Reuters

The Kremlin said Putin had ordered Russian troops to cease firing from midday on Friday along the entire front, in response to a call for a Christmas truce from Patriarch Kirill of Moscow, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, a close Putin ally.

Russia's Channel 1 state television said the ceasefire began at noon Moscow time (0900 GMT) "along the entire line of contact" in the conflict
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The line of contact is where there is direct contact, Artillery shells, missiles and drones cross lines without direct contact,
 
The line of contact is where there is direct contact, Artillery shells, missiles and drones cross lines without direct contact,

So this "ceasefire" does not affect what Russia is actually doing.
 
But these are NATO vehicles!

Poland has shipped something like 250 MBTs to Ukraine but they were Soviet origin designs (T64s, T72s and modernised T55s). So the idea that tanks can't be sent is clearly rubbish. But the scale of the US/German stockpiles is on another level.

The US has around 2,300 -3,500 M1 Abrams tanks in storage.

Germany has a around 2,400 Leopard 1 tanks in storage.

Neither of them are front line kit anymore, the Leopard is under-armoured and both are under-gunned. But if you drop 1,000 of either into Ukraine then Russia is going to have a serious headache.
 
Russia has something to take on the USA's greatest tank. It has a method of getting around it's defences ; so the USA upgraded the defence mechanism. Both probably upgraded even more now.

Latest report indicated that Russians are in the east of the town that has been attacked for some time now. Most of the population have moved out.

One of Pution's changes in Russia was to bring churches back into operation.
 
Russia has something to take on the USA's greatest tank. It has a method of getting around it's defences ; so the USA upgraded the defence mechanism. Both probably upgraded even more now.

Latest report indicated that Russians are in the east of the town that has been attacked for some time now. Most of the population have moved out.

One of Pution's changes in Russia was to bring churches back into operation.
russia's best tanks are not faring very well against Ukraines anti tank weapons, russian weapons are nothing to shout about, as John says mostly cold war era, thats why they are now going shopping in Iran and North Korea.
 
Russia has limited fully modern tanks. They are using a lot of old kit. Against that the old, spare, NATO kit would measure up well.

The reality of Russian equipment is that it is now tired and worn down from a year of active, high intensity operations. They don't have a large supply of new vehicles pouring off the production line.

But probably the most important observation is that some tank is better than no tank. If it's a tank that still has spares and training cadres available that's even better.
 
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