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please show me the examples you have in mind.

I believe it was article 16 where we were told by the EU that as benefits weren't means tested for the British, then this couldn't be applied to immigrants.

Article 23 is where we can't deport immigrants as they are entitled to a home life, even if they have done harm to public.

As you probably know (para 23) "take account of" does not mean "can't"
 
I think I've already agreed with you that the UK government is also at fault, so why are you forcing the point again.

Unlike you John, that thinks the sun shines out of Corbyn and the lefts arse, I disapprove of all the parties ineptitude equally.
 
I'm asking you to show what you mean about 16 and 23.

And I'm pointing out why you're wrong about 23, unless you know something showing that it doesn't mean what it says.

When you claim that the EU prevents the UK government doing something, but in fact the EU specifically permits it but the UK chooses not to do it, I don't call that "the UK also at fault."

I haven't commented about anybody's arse. But I am always happy to point out lies, neofascism and distorted propaganda, as well as tax-dodging, which is why I so often mention the Wail.
 
And you don't think the sources you quote don't have the same sort of lies, neo socialism, and distorted propaganda. Who set you up as the arbitrator of all things good and just John because this is what you don't seem to comprehend. You don't actually want to discuss anything, you just want to correct other peoples view points because they don't agree with yours.
 
And you don't think the sources you quote don't have the same sort of lies, neo socialism, and distorted propaganda.

I'm bemused by your suggestion that quoting the exact words from the EU directive is a lie, neosocialism or distorted propaganda.

OK then, I've shown you an example deliberate lie from the Wail, and an example deliberate or incompetent lie by Theresa May who was Home Secretary when she lied about Expulsion.

Your turn.
 
ira supporter jeremy corbyn with right hand man martin mcguiness ..
 

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K then, I've shown you an example deliberate lie from the Wail, and an example deliberate or incompetent lie by Theresa May who was Home Secretary when she lied about Expulsion

But that's your problem John, you're only out to discredit other people sources, and you think that makes your ideas right, you're not interested in discussing anything, only in proving that your point is the right one, and the only one that can exist. Just because one note in a symphony is flat, doesn't discredit the rest of it, just makes it a not so perfect rendition.

I see shades of grey, but you can't, I admit that the government screws up left right and centre, but with you, the lefts always right, and Tories always wrong; I even give you likes and thanks, but you never shift from your necessity to always show that anything that doesn't agree with your viewpoint is wrong, and that's getting tiring again.
 
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Jeremy corbyn
the piece of scum who supported the ira in their atrocities and wants to be prime minister of the uk.
 
I believe it was article 16 where we were told by the EU that as benefits weren't means tested for the British, then this couldn't be applied to immigrants.
Article 23 is where we can't deport immigrants as they are entitled to a home life, even if they have done harm to public.

I'm asking you to show what you mean about 16 and 23.
And I'm pointing out why you're wrong about 23, unless you know something showing that it doesn't mean what it says.

But that's your problem John, you're only out to discredit other people sources,
Doggit, why not respond to John's comments properly and reasonably (which you claim to always do) instead of trotting out a load hogwash and insults?
John has reasonably asked you for explanations. All you have done is resort to meaningless jibes.

I notice roger comes running to your rescue trying to divert the discussion. It is what the RWR always do when they are back pedaling.
 
Doggit, why not respond to John's comments properly and reasonably (which you claim to always do) instead of trotting out a load hogwash and insults?
John has reasonably asked you for explanations. All you have done is resort to meaningless jibes.
Let me remind you of what you said recently:
... You can blatantly see when someone is just spouting nonsense to try and justify the viewpoint the started out with, even after you've totally destroyed it..
 
Katie Hopkins or Owen Jones? That is a tough call.

Owen Jones. He pretends to be nice. Katie Hopkins though... vile women. Says stupid things like fat people are fat because they eat to much and don't burn enough calories, FFS.
 
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