US executes mentally ill man.

[Homesafe]

I have just recalled an execution in the US of a guy who apparently was mentally ill and was an ex. soilder.

did anyone remember that ???

he killed some people-- heroin kills people, both were claimed to be mentally ill,

question- why did we not make a fuss about that incident?

 

[dextrous]

Was this bloke in any way connected to the UK?

 

[Homesafe]

No but he was an ex. soldier who instead of helping has been executed like a criminal,

it just dawned on me why we havn't made such a fuss over that incident.

but hypocrisy like this is evident everyday with all the famous five bull@@@@r's.

when we need you, your allright, but when we don't you can go to hell women and children an all.

American dream .

 

[Deluks]

Eh?


Find a link to the story and you might get a useful reply.

 

[dextrous]

Think Newgas isn't too keen on Enid Blyton then.

You should hear what he has to say about the secret seven. And as for Noddy, and Shadow the Sheepdog, don't even go there

 

[Homesafe]

I was about to get a link but changed my mind,

I am still shocked at the amount of ex. soldier's that are killed by lethal injection in the states, mostly because of mental illness they have commited crimes that were a direct link to their service in the army.

That has just left me with so much sadness, for the families of these people and inc. them also.

they have just been used to kill people and then been put to death themselves.

just google on ex. us soldier and see how much stuff you go through before you feel sick.

American dream!

 

[ellal]

Just wondering why apparently some people are allowed to be 'mentally ill' and deserve that fact to be taken into consideration whilst others are not...

Another interesting case for the 'no doubt' brigade.. Link

But fear not, good old uncle sam has an answer for everything...

For many years, proving a dead man innocent and forcing a state to admit it has been the Holy Grail of campaigners opposed to the death penalty. They believed one case might well have changed American public opinion, which runs at 65 per cent in support of the death penalty. Sadly and perhaps perversely the US Supreme Court, in a five-four decision, ruled in June that a prisoner had no constitutional right to demand DNA testing of evidence held by police. In August, two of the Supreme Court's members, Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, in a dissenting opinion, nevertheless disclosed views that exist at the highest level of the US justice system. They wrote: "This court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent."......


For those who don't believe that Governor Perry or the US system would be capable of killing an innocent, it is worth considering one fact; 17 people have left death row alive because DNA testing proved their innocence after a death sentence. They served an average of 12 years in prison.

 

[dextrous]

Just wondering why apparently some people are allowed to be 'mentally ill' and deserve that fact to be taken into consideration whilst others are not...

Suppose that one could argue that at the exact time of committing a criminal offence, the perpetrator must by definition be mentally ill - otherwise they would refrain from the act.

 

[ellal]

Suppose that one could argue that at the exact time of committing a criminal offence, the perpetrator must by definition be mentally ill - otherwise they would refrain from the act.

Why?

 

[Homesafe]

dextrous wrote:

Suppose that one could argue that at the exact time of committing a criminal offence, the perpetrator must by definition be mentally ill - otherwise they would refrain from the act. END QUOTE

If you look at it like that then almost every crime done in a rage or spur of the moment or greed would fit that "mentally ill" description.

it isn't easy judging and making decision's like this i suppose.

still ,, if someone would care to go on EX>US SOLDIER you would have more examples of how stupid and twisted some legal system's can be in sentencing people who apparently went(sent) to war in the first instance to apparently protect the people and country and also the ones doing the sentencing also

 

[Homesafe]

These poor soldier's, they serve their country and then get **** on.

How come noone knows about the problem with all these thousand's of soldier's going crazy and most of them being put down, TBH that's what it seems like to me.

There is a sinisterly high percentage of hispanic's and black's (soldier's and civvy's) among the one's on death row.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Was he American
I rest my case your honour

 

[dextrous]

There is a sinisterly high percentage of hispanic's and black's (soldier's and civvy's) among the one's on death row.

It's only sinister if it's a disproportionate number in relation to the proportions of ethnic groups within the army, coupled with the added parameter of percentage "likelihood" of criminal behaviour within the ethnic groups themselves (as a control group)

 

[Homesafe]

Was he American
I rest my case your honour

come on, very clever, your case deserves a rest.

 

[roughcaster]

Suppose that one could argue that at the exact time of committing a criminal offence, the perpetrator must by definition be mentally ill - otherwise they would refrain from the act.

Why?

The person who attacked Berlisconi was described as, "having a mental problem", the woman who attacked the Pope was described as, "having a mental problem".

Roughcaster.