Washing Machine/Dishwasher - Operating switch

[ban-all-sheds]

Also, as we know, some people "like tech" - there are precious few advantages real or significant enough to warrant the enthusiasm which some people have for home automation, controlling their lights with their phone from a beach café in Bali, buying fancy CH programmers which are not suited to their CH systems, having smart meters, etc.

Maybe some people just like to have lots of switches on their walls.

Maybe utterlydiy should be shown some grid switch porn.

 

[JohnW2]

3 - 2. (I think)

Don't forget that BAS's 'poll' related to whether anyone had ever had to cut the supply to an appliance 'in an emergency'. I said I had, but I used the MCB in the CU - so if you're counting my 'vote' as being for 'local' isolators for appliances, that's probably not appropriate.

In a high proportion of 'ordinary' houses, the CU is within a dozen or so paces of the kitchen and/or utility room(where most of these {rare} problems are likely to arise), in which case I would personally (i.e. for myself) regard additional switches as unnecessary. However, once the power has been switched off, I'm quite capable of disconnecting the culprit device and hence being able to restore power to the circuit (i.e. the rest of the kitchen etc.). In the case of those who (because of age, disability, ineptitude, disinclination or whatever) could not do that, having a dedicated isolator for each appliance might avoid their having to wait a day or three without kitchen power until someone came to sort it out for them. In other words, "it depends".

Kind Regards, John

 

[utterlydiy]

To finish this off.

Electricians connected with work, always told me that Fuses and MCB's only protect the cables connecting appliance not the Appliance or Switches.

Sometimes I think its a wasted effort coming here asking for advice when you get certain icks too high in giving their answers.

Time to find another forum more down to earth with their replies.

 

[Adam_151]

Let's have an unscientific, statistically insignificant poll, and ask how many people have ever needed, for any reason, to cut off the supply to a socket where an appliance is plugged in.

Do the numerous times I've pressed start on the washing machine, and remembered straight after that I've forgotten to throw the soap capsule in and needed to turn it off for 5 mins so the door lock releases, count?

I like above counter top isolators for applainces, so I put them in when I did the kitchen, I'm also one of those slightly annoying types that tends to switch the equipment off at the isolator when not being used.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Electricians connected with work, always told me that Fuses and MCB's only protect the cables connecting appliance not the Appliance or Switches.

They will protect the correctly rated fixed switches as well as the cable but are not there to protect appliances.

After all, for example, you may have a 20W (1/12th of an amp) lamp in a cooker on a 32A circuit so they really can't.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Electricians connected with work, always told me that Fuses and MCB's only protect the cables connecting appliance not the Appliance or Switches.

Sometimes I think its a wasted effort coming here asking for advice when you get certain icks too high in giving their answers.

Err... who here has tried to tell you that fuses or MCBs are for anything other than protecting cables?

Time to find another forum more down to earth with their replies.

Err...

You commented about there being no isolator for the socket(s), you were told, truthfully, that you didn't have to have one, but you could if you wanted.

You suggested using a 45A rated switch, you were told, truthfully, that you didn't need one rated so high.


How down-to-earth would you have had the replies be?

 

[winston1]

Do the numerous times I've pressed start on the washing machine, and remembered straight after that I've forgotten to throw the soap capsule in and needed to turn it off for 5 mins so the door lock releases, count?

The switch on the washing machine will do that. But you really need to get your act together and remember to put the capsule in (or get your wife/partner to do the washing).

I like above counter top isolators for applainces, so I put them in when I did the kitchen,

Your choice but they are not necessary.

I'm also one of those slightly annoying types that tends to switch the equipment off at the isolator when not being used.

Again your choice but not necessary.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I switch my kettle off at the socket when not using it.

 

[winston1]

I switch my kettle off at the socket when not using it.

Again your choice but not necessary. Sockets in most countries don't have switches. What would you do there?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Again your choice but not necessary.

But a BGI when the switch is very near the bottom of the kettle, and very easily turned on by something being pushed onto it,

Sockets in most countries don't have switches. What would you do there?

Duurrrrr.......

Unplug it.