What is electrical equipment and what is an electrical installation?

[ericmark]

“electrical installation” means fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer's side of the electricity supply meter;
“electrical equipment” means those electrical fixtures, fittings and appliances that are not electrical installations;

How can it be a fixture and not a fixture at the same time?

 

[SUNRAY]

How can it be a fixture and not a fixture at the same time?

And hence the reason we have had so many discussions about the boundaries for EICR and PAT or whatever the current fashionable terms are.

 

[securespark]

We don't have endless discussions about such things, do we?

 

[ebee]

How can it be a fixture and not a fixture at the same time?

Who says it can be ?

Sctually I would prefer to discuss a Ring Final Circuit or a Radial Final Circuit being a "Final Circuit" but being the source of another radial (or ring) final or non-final ciruit because of the placement of a circuit protective divice?

Example a Circuit from a consumer unit containing points of utilisation such as sockets but also connected to FCUs with a 3 to 13A fuse for say a lighting circuits or small power circuits

 

[JohnW2]

How can it be a fixture and not a fixture at the same time?

Is it perhaps so hot that you can't apply your thought processes to more pressing questions ?

 

[SUNRAY]

We don't have endless discussions about such things, do we?

Now you come to mention it; no I don't recall it being mentioned very much



























Well certainly not more than hundreds of posts

 

[JohnW2]

Now you come to mention it; no I don't recall it being mentioned very much .... Well certainly not more than hundreds of posts

I think the 'discussions' most often relate to things 'plugged into' an electrical installation (particularly if 'plugged in' via an 'extension cable'), in which case many people would say that they are not (or 'should not be') within the scope of an EICR.

 

[securespark]

Now you come to mention it; no I don't recall it being mentioned very much



























Well certainly not more than hundreds of posts

 

[ebee]

I think the 'discussions' most often relate to things 'plugged into' an electrical installation (particularly if 'plugged in' via an 'extension cable'), in which case many people would say that they are not (or 'should not be') within the scope of an EICR.

Hmm, thats a good one.
If we decide that, in some installtions, an extension ( or something plugged in using a plug and socket type approach) is it or is it not a part of that installation itself?
My answer is - yes it could be, it depends upon the application/intended use.

I am sure some of us if not all of us would view an extension reel kept under the stairs for use now and again once or twice a year to do a bit of power washing or hedge trimming etc as not part of the installtion itself.

On the other hand though - a plug and socket type system, example a means of disconnecting/reconnecting 12 downlights in a room one at a time or in groups of 2 or 3 at a time to aid testing, adding/ammending/repairing and fault finding using those blue or green connectors hidden in the ceiling , this would surely make them all part of the installation itself?

Where do we draw the line???