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Surely there are SOME Daily Mail readers out there that are popular enough to garner just a wee bit of publicity for the outers?
Spot on. I agree. There are.
When considering in or out:
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Spot on. I agree. There are.
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No.
However bear in mind that the cost is around 0.5% of GDP, so even a 1% drop (if we resign from membership of our largest market) will more than outweigh the cost. Apart from a few fringe economists on the Resign side, it is generally accepted that resignation will cost us a substantial loss of trade. The only remaining argument is whether it will be Bad, or Very Very Bad.
It's amusing that the lunatic fringe, such as Boris, like to throw in one side of the Cost:Benefit case, while pretending that the other side doesn't exist.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36286449
We don't know what we would have to pay, as a non-member, to access the Single Market after resignation. Perhaps it would be as much as Norway.
"Countries outside the EU, which want access to the single market, such as Norway and Switzerland, still make contributions to the EU Budget.
It's a slightly difficult comparison to make, but fortunately a paper from the House of Commons Library from 2013 did it for us.
It says that Norway's contribution to the EU in 2011 was £106 per capita, compared with the UK's net contribution of £128 per capita in the same year."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36040060
Isn't it a bit patronising, having the EU giving us OUR money back and telling us what we spend it on? Where's the sovereignty in that????
Just like our slimey weasel, towel-folder expert Chancellor tells us that we'll be £4,300 worse off in 2020, and our house values will fall 18% etc.
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I just despair of your blind defeatism, but that's just typical of many Remainers; they believe the UK can't stand on it's own feet and needs nanny EU to support us.
Your lack of confidence in the Uk is very sad. As one of the largest, most prosperous and successful countries in Europe, you fear it is unable to hold its own in the conference room or parliamentary chamber.
UK has a strong voice and has voted on the winning side in the vast majority of decisions.
Perhaps you fantasise about a world where one nation always gets 100% of what it wants, and the rest of the world is composed of swarthy deceitful foreigners who must learn to Know Their Place.
UK has a strong voice and has voted on the winning side in the vast majority of decisions.
Perhaps you fantasise about a world where one nation always gets 100% of what it wants, and the rest of the world is composed of swarthy deceitful foreigners who must learn to Know Their Place.
Is that what the outers are fighting for, sovereignty?
Don't get as big a slice of the publicity though do they. Why is that?
Our one and only Steel manufacturing business has recently said " Ta Ta"
Thats the UK chopped off at the knees for a start.
No, but maybe the unemployed youth of southern Europe fantasise about getting a job; maybe the Greeks fantasise about eventually running their own country again, and perhaps Cypriots fantasise about pre 2012, before their deposit accounts were wiped out by the bail-in.
With regard to Greece, the EU has had to shovel money in because they were broke and would otherwise have had to leave the Euro. And why were they broke?
Because in the boom years they borrowed heavily because they were able to go on a binge because of the one-size-fits-all Euro. Goldman Sachs had to cook the books to let Greece in in the first place. They would probably be better off now had they kept out and stuck with the Drachma.
because they don't pay their taxes, borrow money they don't pay back, and are corrupt, and syphon off EU grants to line the pockets of crooks.
As you say, it's all someone else's fault.
So we have to stay in an organisation that admits these countries, and then ultimately pay the financial consequences?
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