Where are our hero's?
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A Firefighter was lowered into the well, to assist the casualty, a risk assessment was made to await a Specialist Rescue Team with CORRECT rescue equiptment.
Group Commander William Thompson said triggering a further collapse of the shaft could have buried her AND the Firefighter.
The Firefighter and the woman were both rescued safely but the woman suffered a fatal heart attack following the rescue.
Group Commander William Thompson said triggering a further collapse of the shaft could have buried her AND the Firefighter.
The Firefighter and the woman were both rescued safely but the woman suffered a fatal heart attack following the rescue.
WHAT are they paid £28k a year for doing a 4 on 4 off shift and getting paid cash in the hand for doing jobs on their days off..
Don't even dare mention their extortionate pension, that is obviously the only reason they do the job. In my opinion the officer in charge should be chucked out of the service with no pension or better still shot at dawn..
Don't even dare mention their extortionate pension, that is obviously the only reason they do the job. In my opinion the officer in charge should be chucked out of the service with no pension or better still shot at dawn..
Do you believe in people doing jobs they are not qualified for ???
Under the Fire Service Act, The Fire Service is ONLY responsible for the Prevention of Fire, Rescue of People From Fire and Road Traffic Accidents.
All other incidents attended, are classed as Special Service Incidents, if the risk assessment is deemed dangerous then Specialist Teams trained with the CORRECT equipment are called in,
In this case Mining Rescue team.
Under the Fire Service Act, The Fire Service is ONLY responsible for the Prevention of Fire, Rescue of People From Fire and Road Traffic Accidents.
All other incidents attended, are classed as Special Service Incidents, if the risk assessment is deemed dangerous then Specialist Teams trained with the CORRECT equipment are called in,
In this case Mining Rescue team.
No Fifty Miles away,
It seems its more the problem of the Specialist Rescue team not getting there quick enough, or being told of the Incident early on in the rescue operation. ,
Emergency Calls always depend on the Initial Information given when the first call/s are made,
So it all goes back to what information was given in the first place and how it was prioritised
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wyer-died-falling-mineshaft-talk-anguish.html
Let's assume they'd just dived in and the mine shaft had collapsed killing both the woman and a couple of her rescuers.. Would you want someone prosecuted for not carrying out a risk assessment ?
H&S rears its ugly head once again, so let me get this right, the initial 999 call was at fault, very easy to say in the cold light of day, but when you're actually at an emergency scene what comes out of your mouth may be a little economic with the facts especially if you are not a PROFESSIONAL! I've been accused in the past of doing things a bit hastily, but Confucius say, He who looks before he leaps may spend his entire life on one foot...
Answer to your question, NO, but a posthumous medal for bravery would not go amiss.
Out of curiosity, did anyone do a "risk assessment" at the Twin Towers?
I rest my case....
A posthumous medal?? Oh yeah, and an even bigger public enquiry..
The twin towers was a completely different scenario, where thousands of people were led to safety. Also fire crews were "pulled" because of the danger of collapse, before they eventually did collapse, so someone somewhere was doing an ongoing risk assessment.
And result of which a woman lost her life, the fire brigade is an emergency service, this was an emergency, from where I'm sat they are more concerned with their pensions.
I was an aircraft fitter in the RAF but if push came to shove we were still expected to start shooting with an SLR, If it had been your mother, wife or daughter in that hole I wager you would be singing a different tune...
I think a bit of common sense would not go amiss when H&S is instigated...
I was an aircraft fitter in the RAF but if push came to shove we were still expected to start shooting with an SLR, If it had been your mother, wife or daughter in that hole I wager you would be singing a different tune...
I think a bit of common sense would not go amiss when H&S is instigated...
That's why they're called the armed forces Of course you'd be expected to pick up a rifle.... Of course you'd have been trained in their use when you were doing basic training.
Common sense seems to be in very short supply these days. Not just with the emergency services, but in all walks of life. Not because of H&S issues, but the (apparent) risk of people claiming compensation.
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