Go back to my post about the FIRE SERVICES ACT.
Where are our hero's?
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Go back to my post about the FIRE SERVICES ACT.
Without wishing to get embroiled in an ongoing 'discussion' there was a case a few years ago of the emergency services being called to an incident whereby the body of a man was seen floating in a lake.
Fire and ambulance crews stood around for over 40 minutes, on the orders of their superiors, until a risk assessment had been made. Shortly before the go ahead was given a passing motorist stopped his car, waded into the lake and brought the mans body back to dry land.
The water was only 18" deep!
At the inquest it was revealed that there was a possibility he may have been alive when the services arrived but it could not be proved if he had been.
Fire and ambulance crews stood around for over 40 minutes, on the orders of their superiors, until a risk assessment had been made. Shortly before the go ahead was given a passing motorist stopped his car, waded into the lake and brought the mans body back to dry land.
The water was only 18" deep!
At the inquest it was revealed that there was a possibility he may have been alive when the services arrived but it could not be proved if he had been.
that incident was in the Southampton Area, it was established when assessing the scene by a Senior Officer it was a Body Retrieval only,
I think the passing motorist saga was an embellishment to the story by the news media,
No one was certain of the depth of the lake at the time, plus it was a known dumping ground for all types of contaminated rubbish including junkies hypodermic needles which was a health hazard to anyone entering the water without proper protective clothing, boots etc. which is not carried on main Fire Appliances.
The specialist Rescue water unit was situated at a Station the other side of the County which took 20 minutes to get to the scene after the first Fire Appliances had arrived.
Sadly we cannot have all types of Specialist Rescue equiptment carried at all Fire Stations, and with the cut backs, closures of Fire Stations, cutting down numbers of Firefighters, circumstances are going to get worse and many incidents will be deemed not necessary to attend. As I said before this type of rescue work is not part of the Fire Services role, and they are not required to attend.
I think the passing motorist saga was an embellishment to the story by the news media,
No one was certain of the depth of the lake at the time, plus it was a known dumping ground for all types of contaminated rubbish including junkies hypodermic needles which was a health hazard to anyone entering the water without proper protective clothing, boots etc. which is not carried on main Fire Appliances.
The specialist Rescue water unit was situated at a Station the other side of the County which took 20 minutes to get to the scene after the first Fire Appliances had arrived.
Sadly we cannot have all types of Specialist Rescue equiptment carried at all Fire Stations, and with the cut backs, closures of Fire Stations, cutting down numbers of Firefighters, circumstances are going to get worse and many incidents will be deemed not necessary to attend. As I said before this type of rescue work is not part of the Fire Services role, and they are not required to attend.
I remember reading that at the time and wondering whether this was just some of the big cheeses covering their ar$es as all this health and safety business was becoming more popular!
Last night a number of people formed a human chain to assist survivors out of the stricken pub in Glasgow, if it was left to the "professionals" they would probably still be doing a risk assessment.
Do the RNLI do a risk assessment before they launch into heavy seas and a howling gale? Maybe being volunteers has something to do with it, is it time we scrapped the fire service in its present form and relied on volunteers who are not doing a dangerous job for monetary reasons?
Do the RNLI do a risk assessment before they launch into heavy seas and a howling gale? Maybe being volunteers has something to do with it, is it time we scrapped the fire service in its present form and relied on volunteers who are not doing a dangerous job for monetary reasons?
Thats what I said, there so much now wrong with Britain, so why wasn't risk analysis performed when the recent Helicopter fell out of sky on a pub in Scotland, I mean common sense will tell you that most choppers throughout the world have poor safety record, and then to allow them to fly over built up area is irresponsible. sadly 8 people lost their lives, and many more were injured some with serious crippling injuries!
Helicopters should not have been allowed to fly over built up areas, the police will have to use other means to persue joy riders!
And that woman should have been rescued regardless of the risk of the mine collapsing, really it is just the other way around. They have got it wrong!
Helicopters should not have been allowed to fly over built up areas, the police will have to use other means to persue joy riders!
And that woman should have been rescued regardless of the risk of the mine collapsing, really it is just the other way around. They have got it wrong!
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Ayrshire has 3 Wholetime Fire Stations and SEVEN Retained Stations,
A retained Firefighter is a PART TIME VOLUNTEER who does another FULL TIME job and is paid a yearly retaining fee and a Call Out fee, exactly like the RNLI Volunteers.
So in this particular instance there is a very good chance the first firefighters on the scene were Volunteer firefighters.
On your bike!
You must be very brave to fly in a helicopter, I would not even ride for free, but I understand helicopters do so many useful things without them more people would die, many thousand are rescued each year, however I am talking about police helicopters hanging about in highly populated areas, anything can go wrong, after all it is unpredictable man made machinery, with 10 thousand components and the likelyness of any going wrong is high.
the bike will be more dangerous, at least pilots are highly trained, any numpty can drive a car
I don't dispute the ability of a pilot, but even the best pilot cannot control a 10 ton machine when it has lost all drive, or a gearbox failure, and being a man made machine serviced by man, it is much far too vulnerable to many elements. However aeroplanes are by far the most safest means of transport and their failure rate is much much lower than helicopters.
There was one that fell in London when it struck a crane, sadly killing one innocent bloke on the road on his way to work, whilst the pilot naturally died upon impact ! shame really
One would imagine a helicopter blades could have been made out of some special material so strong as to chop the crane in half and yet suffer no damage itself, and continue to fly, but thats another question for designers and a lot of room for improvement I guess.
or why not have a huge baloon that inflates instantly from a compressed helium when the chopper engines or gearbox fails, it could be deployed in some clever way so as to not tangle with the blades, allowing it to land safely.
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Rotor blades distinctive sound generated by blade tips moving at or near speed of sound - quite quickly.
When travelling at high speed, materials may not perform as imagined.
See from circa 5min 10sec -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orO3PxLPiKU
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When travelling at high speed, materials may not perform as imagined.
See from circa 5min 10sec -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orO3PxLPiKU
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