Which boiler ?

[chippie84]

Hi all. Just after a bit of advice on a new boiler. Currently getting a few quotes to go from a system to combi. Had 2 similar quotes , one for Ideal Standard and one for Veissman.

Which would you recommend ?
Thanks in advance
Jon

 

[AGAS]

unless you like bending over a lot and grabbing your ankles and thinking of sweet jesus then viessmann is not the way to go

 

[Stadan20]

As agas says , I would avoid viessmann like the plague

 

[JohnD]

Why?

 

[Stadan20]

Spares are expensive , most suppliers don’t stock spares , and I personally just hate working on them

 

[muggles]

Only go for Viessmann if it's the 200W, everything else is distinctly average at best.

I'd recommend the Intergas ECO RF...10 year warranty, only 4 moving parts, and made of good solid copper and brass

 

[Phill Peck]

Viessmann 200 spares are expensive 100 not so.

There’s a reason they’re not stocked anywhere.
If you had a shop would you keep items that don’t sell?

Installed approx 200 Viessmann boilers over the last 7 years with very few failures.
Had a couple (maybe 4) of issues with their wireless thermostats.
1 pcb
1 expansion vessel
1 pump
2 ignition electrodes/leads but I’d consider those consumables.

 

[bernardgreen]

and made of good solid copper and brass

Brass ?, what happened to the aluminium block.

 

[bernardgreen]

and made of good solid copper and brass

Brass ? what happened to the aluminium ?

 

[boilerdoktor]

Go Worcester Bosch all day long, best aftercare service in the industry and cheap parts after warranty if it does go wrong.

 

[JohnD]

I don't know if Viessmann spares are expensive, I've only had mine nine years and not needed any yet. It does get annually serviced but hasn't even needed a gasket. I did get a part replaced foc by the warranty agent in year 3 as it was identified as unreliable.

 

[AGAS]

I don't know if Viessmann spares are expensive, I've only had mine nine years and not needed any yet. It does get annually serviced but hasn't even needed a gasket. I did get a part replaced foc by the warranty agent in year 3 as it was identified as unreliable.

Don't worry you'll find out how expensive the parts are and don't expect your boiler parts to arrive the next day either

 

[Phill Peck]

Don't worry you'll find out how expensive the parts are and don't expect your boiler parts to arrive the next day either

That all depends where you’re buying from.

 

[Hot&Cold]

Which would you recommend ?

Some consideration into the after sales service is important.

when the inevitable boiler breakdown happens,you need it repaired asap.so do some research on getting boiler fixed quickly.

you dont want to have the only Viessmann in the village

 

[muggles]

Go Worcester Bosch all day long, best aftercare service in the industry and cheap parts after warranty if it does go wrong.

best aftersales service? I’ve called them out twice recently, once to a 3 month old Compact System with a dead PCB in Central Oxford in October, where their earliest available appointment was 2.5 days away, and once to an out of warranty Greenstar Junior with a dead expansion vessel and a leak I couldn't trace the source of, so thought it would be cheaper for my customer to have a fixed price repair. They turned up and refused the job, charged my customer a call out fee and left.

Yes their parts are cheap, because they're made of plastic. Readily available too... needed a left hand hydroblock a couple of months ago and the merchants had nine in stock. Nine! As @Phill Peck says, they don't keep that many in unless they're selling a hell of a lot of them.


Contrast the above with Intergas, who I called out recently because my customer had binned the condensate trap on a boiler I was installing (so definitely not a warranty issue) and Ray turned up with a replacement 3 hours later, free of charge.