Which breaker to use?

[First-time-buyer]

You could make your garage future proof.

Before Part P and all that, I did a 7 mtr run to a garage in 6mm 3-core SWA. 32A MCB in the house (unprotected side) with a 2 way board in the garage (Ring Main/Lighting Circuit) with a RCD main switch. As the installation was only going to happen once, and the cable was provided free why not?

17th Edition... I guess you could convert the unprotected MCB to a RCBO and hey presto.

I guess the risk of having a garage on the protected side of the board, and a RCD in the garage is that knowing "Luck", the house one will be more sensitive/faster tripping than the garage one..

 

[EFLImpudence]

17th Edition... I guess you could convert the unprotected MCB to a RCBO and hey presto.

With swa that's not required, necessary nor desirable

I guess the risk of having a garage on the protected side of the board, and a RCD in the garage is that knowing "Luck", the house one will be more sensitive/faster tripping than the garage one..

For that reason.

 

[winston1]

And not true...

It was certainly in the local paper. Though I believe being done was no more than a verbal warning rather than a procecution.

 

[JohnW2]

PS - I actually find this:

A pub near me was done by Trading Standards a while back because a customer (not me) asked for Coke and they served him Pepsi which was the only cola drink they sold.

impossible to believe.

I'm inclined to agree, although one does sometimes hear of ridiculous over-zealousness on the part of Trading Standards, just as with things done in the name of "H&S". In legal terms, I suppose a lot depends on whether the pub 'represented' the drink as being 'Coke', when it wasn't (rather than simply saying that it had to be Pepsi, since that was all they sold). If they has served up a glass of Tesco's 'value Chardonnay', pretending that it was the much-more-expensive wine that a customer had ordered, you might feel a little differently.

Kind Regards, John

 

[diyer56]

PS - I actually find this:

A pub near me was done by Trading Standards a while back because a customer (not me) asked for Coke and they served him Pepsi which was the only cola drink they sold.

impossible to believe.

I'm inclined to agree, although one does sometimes hear of ridiculous over-zealousness on the part of Trading Standards, just as with things done in the name of "H&S". In legal terms, I suppose a lot depends on whether the pub 'represented' the drink as being 'Coke', when it wasn't (rather than simply saying that it had to be Pepsi, since that was all they sold). If they has served up a glass of Tesco's 'value Chardonnay', pretending that it was the much-more-expensive wine that a customer had ordered, you might feel a little differently.

Kind Regards, John

I am not sure about the prosecution reference but when in pubs/restaurants locally you will often hear the following (or similar):

Customer: Can I have a pint of Coke please?
Bar staff: Is Pepsi OK?

I assume they are aware, through training, that they shouldn't misrepresent Pepsi as Coca-Cola.

 

[First-time-buyer]

17th Edition... I guess you could convert the unprotected MCB to a RCBO and hey presto.

With swa that's not required, necessary nor desirable

I guess the risk of having a garage on the protected side of the board, and a RCD in the garage is that knowing "Luck", the house one will be more sensitive/faster tripping than the garage one..

For that reason.

Even when the SWA is terminated outside in an IP65 Plastic Box, then run to the board in 6mm T&E (with an optional 4mm earth)..?

Not every Consumer Unit is metal..and the cable run to the box would be within 50mm of the surface.

 

[JohnW2]

...you will often here the following (or similar): Customer: Can I have a pint of Coke please? Bar staff: Is Pepsi OK? ... I assume they are aware, through training, that they shouldn't misrepresent Pepsi as Coca-Cola.

Exactly. I don't think there is any doubt that to actually 'misrepresent' is an offence, although whether there would ever be a prosecution over such a trivial matter is a different matter. As I implied, I'm sure that 'action' is far more likely when something is misrepresented as being something else which is more expensive - serving cheapo 'value cola' and saying it was Coke or Pepsi (and charging Coke/Pepsi prices) might possible be enough to 'interest' Trading Standards (or even the police).

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I once ordered a bottle of 'Chablis' in a restaurant in the USA.

I did not expect it to actually be Chablis, nor even French.

But I did think they should have had the decency to have made it out of Chardonnay grapes, not Riesling...

 

[AndyPRK]

I seem to have provoked a bit of discussion.

Makes a change from an argument on here anyway