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Which cable to use to supply elecric to Garage

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by Cometomama, 11 Apr 2009.

  1. ban-all-sheds

    ban-all-sheds

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    So?

    Inside or outside is irrelevant - wherever it is it has to comply with the Building Regulations, as they apply to any work whatsoever on fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer’s side of the electricity supply meter which operate at low or extra-low voltage and are—
    (a) in or attached to a dwelling;
    (b) in the common parts of a building serving one or more dwellings, but excluding power supplies to lifts;
    (c) in a building that receives its electricity from a source located within or shared with a dwelling; or
    (d) in a garden or in or on land associated with a building where the electricity is from a source located within or shared with a dwelling.


    It might, it might not. If it doesn't then it will contravene P1, and therefore not be allowed.


    No.

    I don't see what point you are trying to make....


    They can't do that if you don't understand them, and so far I don't think you do... :confused:
     
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    I think that's a terrible idea. Do it properly or not at all.


    What does the last line in the segment I quoted say? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    [​IMG] :eek: [​IMG]
    Please ignore all advice re you replacing the cable. That garage installation is a menace - you must get an electrician in to sort it. It must not be re-energised in its current form.
     
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    OK why it is menace just because you don't like it :p

    Anyway I have bought an extension lead and took it all the way to the garage and fixed a plug before the box and plugged it in the extention lead.
    Now when I "ON" the box it is working.

    When I am not using it I just unplug the supply from the my kitchen and roll back the cable to the garage..

    I see no problems whatsoever and is perfectly safe.

    Reason 1: Socket in Kitchen is fused (from mains fusebox if anything it would just trip)
    Reason 2: Extension lead plug is fused.
    Reason 3: Plug I fixed before box is fused.
    Reason 4: Box itself is fused.
     
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    Sorry, but that garage installation is a mess and wants ripping out. Using an extension lead for some applications is OK, however to power an old garage installation like yours have isn't imo a good idea, just a lash up.
    There are quite a few issues with the fuse box you show - the top entry isn't glanded, neutrals fused?? asbestos, how is the earthing done? Cables entering not secured.
    What about RCD protection too?
     
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    What is the point of contacting a forum for advice, getting sound advice from professionals, then lashing the job up anyway?
     
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    simples. Like most people he just wants advice that he hoped would be easy, when its not to his liking he does what he wants to anyway.
     
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    Because you've got fuses in the neutrals - this an absolute no-no, and dangerous enough to be illegal.


    And that sounds like you're supplying the garage via a cable with a live plug on the end.

    I hope I've misunderstood that, but if not you've done something highly dangerous - cables like that are called widowmakers, and for good reason.
     
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    Fuses are there to protect the cables in the event of an overload or fault (assuming the circuit is installed correctly, which in this case is doubtful). They do not provide protection against electric shock.

    Your main consumer unit may contain an RCD which will provide some protection against electric shock. However these devices are not substitutes for installing the wiring correctly.

    The mess of wiriing in the garage is shoddy and dangerous. Using it is putting you and other people at risk of injury or death.
     
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    Fused neutrals are great, in the event of fault or overload its a 50/50 chance which fuse melts first, meaning the circuit breaks but all of the wiring after said fuses (both live and neutral) becomes very live, just waiting for you to complete the circuit!

    Needless to say this practice was outlawed quite some time ago.
     
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    It's beginning to look as though you're right.
     
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