Which drill for bricks- Rotatory Hammer Drill vs. Impact Drill

[DIY1st]

Hi everyone,
I have a bosch cordless combi drill (green) that I have used for like 5 years. Has worked well, but takes forever to drill simple holes in brick walls of my 1930s house. I use masontry bits that came in bosch multi bit set. Recently I had got its chuck stuck after drilling in a wall which I managed to loosen again after a lot of effort and its working. But I am now thinking of using my cordless combi only for timber and driving screws only. And buy a corded drill for drilling holes in bricks mainly - to hang stuff. Narrowed down on Bosch (green) PBH 2100 RE Rotatry Hammer Drill - 550W or Bosch Professional impact drill GSB 13 RE. They are around the budget am looking to spend.

I know the Bosch Professional will be better quality. But does any one have experience with GSB 13 RE? On the other hand the green PBH 2100 RE - is it more powerful as it is a rotatory hammer drill? Will it be too much for drilling holes in bricks? It might be good to have its chisel function for rare use in the garden!

Many thanks in advance

 

[foxhole]

You need a SDS drill and bits for masonry .

 

[DIY1st]

You need a SDS drill and bits for masonry .

so the PBH 2100 RE Rotatry Hammer Drill which has SDS+ chuck

 

[Gasguru]

Get the PBH...
Apply a little grease to the SDS bit (chuck end!) and let the drill do the work...you don't need to apply loads of pressure.

 

[DIY1st]

Get the PBH...
Apply a little grease to the SDS bit (chuck end!) and let the drill do the work...you don't need to apply loads of pressure.

Thank you. I read on one of the threads here or another forum, someone claiming that using a rotatory hammer drill for bricks can damage the bricks as its too powerful for bricks! is that correcT?

 

[Gasguru]

Sure if you go mad it will blow the opposite face off the brick as the bit breaks through but so will a traditional impact/percussion drill.
You've got variable speed and you can always pilot hole drill first with less risk of breakout.
Once you've used SDS you will never waste anymore time with old impact drills (unless it's lightweight block).

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Get an sds, they used to be expensive, but not any more. For DIY, the Lidl sds, either battery, or more capable mains - are perfectly adequate. SDS versus hammer, chalk and cheese.

 

[blup]

Get the latest Makita SDS 2 kg corded drill for not that much more

 

[foxhole]

Brick damage depends on the type of bricks , used to have a couple of walls in last property which had bricks which shattered when drilled , but that’s rare .

 

[opps]

https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/tools-and-machining/rotary-hammers/hr1840-sds-plus-rotary-hammer-drill-240v/p/ZT3948122S

£74 for a Makita.

 

[ETAF]

masontry bits that came in bosch multi bit set.

is that the multipurpose bits
i use these now all the time
screwfix
Bosch Expert Straight Shank Multi-Material Drill Bits 4 Piece Set (138KY)

toolstation
Bosch Expert CYL-9 Multi Construction TCT Drill Bit Set 4 Piece
by Bosch
Product Code: 51204

use these all the time , havent used a masonry drill in years and dont use hammer at all

BUT SDS is the way to go - i have one , but rarely use now for drilling holes - Mainly using on the chisel setting

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Ideally, the sds needs to have a rota stop, and a hammer stop, to improve their versatility, plus a clutch, avoids them breaking your wrist, if the drill bit jams

 

[opps]

is that the multipurpose bits
i use these now all the time
screwfix
Bosch Expert Straight Shank Multi-Material Drill Bits 4 Piece Set (138KY)

toolstation
Bosch Expert CYL-9 Multi Construction TCT Drill Bit Set 4 Piece
by Bosch
Product Code: 51204

use these all the time , havent used a masonry drill in years and dont use hammer at all

BUT SDS is the way to go - i have one , but rarely use now for drilling holes - Mainly using on the chisel setting

I have a set of those in my work rucksack. They are fine for soft bricks but no good for anything harder than a Fleton. My 12v Metabo drill will just about drill a 5mm hole in a red rubber brick but for yellow London stock I need to use my 18v with the hammer turned on. Fleton, concrete or engineering brick, definitely SDS

 

[opps]

My goto SDS drill bits are the 4 flute type. Particularly the Makita Nemesis drill bits.

A few years ago I had to hang curtains for a customer. I was drilling in to a concrete lintel. The tip of the SDS bit snapped off. I did some research and discovered that the Nemesis bits will cut through them

 

[Munroast]

depends on the brick, some are hard, some are soft, noral hammer drill with a sharp quality masonary bit will do most for typical 7mm plugs

is your hammerdrill working properly, good vibrations and all that (fast speeds with them seem to work better too)