Wiring 6 pendant ceiling light

[lg_diy]

Hi guys,

Hopefully an easy one just looking for some confirmation as to whether or not my thought process is correct.

I'm currently changing over some ceiling rose lights to 6 pendant lights, after having changed some other light fixtures over in the past I didn't think it would be too troubling. So just a question based on how it is to be wired.

We have 6 blue and 6 brown wires coming from the light fixture itself. Now these are a bit spread out so can't really use a 10 way wago, so was thinking about linking/pigtailing 2x 5 ways. Having 4 blue (from the light) and a link wire going into one, and then 2 blue (from the light) , 1 ( from the ceiling) and the link wire in another one ( see the terribly drawn paint image for an explanation). Then replicating this for the brown wires and then obviously terminating earth in another. Does this logically sound correct or am I missing something?

I'll be honest, I may be able to squeeze it all into 2 x 10 ways but I have the 5 ways and the 10 ways are only available over an hour drive from me. Feel free to advise however suits, appreciate it.

 

[ETAF]

dont trust the colours mean anything specifically - blue can mean switched live as well as neutral - depending on how the electricaian decided to wire
i dont understand the drawing - as you are showing just 3 wires for the house wire ?

 

[lg_diy]

Yeah I know which is the switched live that's all good, diagram unfortunately does not show the state of the ceiling wires that well.

And apologies for that, I've attached an image of how the one was wired previously. I'm not an electrician so unsure if how they done it previously would be best to replicate? Just seems like a lot of wires.

From what I can see there is only 2 blue and 1 switching coming from the ceiling? The rest of the browns are *terminated?* In a connector block

 

[ETAF]

to me it looks like this diagram from flameport - a member here - taken from website - https://flameport.com/electric/lighting_circuits/lighting_ceiling_rose_looped.cs4 - simple diagram showing the ceiling rose - so cna you confirm tats what you have - the image is not 100% but what i can see and enlarge - looks the same

the 2 blues in the lower connector block should be neutral in/out

 

[lg_diy]

Yeah so that looks relatively like what I've got going on here. Minus 1 earth maybe? One of the pairs coming from the ceiling does not have an earth?

So if all is well and we've confirmed that looks good, is it just a case of making the 6 blues and 6 browns into 1 wire each in theory and they would be the "lamp" wires from the above diagram?

 

[ETAF]

is it just a case of making the 6 blues and 6 browns into 1 wire each in theory and they would be the "lamp" wires from the above diagram?

its already wired like that - is this the new pendant you want to add or what is the picture ?

 

[lg_diy]

Sorry, should have been more clear. The image I attached of the existing wire has since been taken down and cut away a bit ( the pendant wires were shortened), but is going back up , so all the bit below the connector block has basically been removed. So I'm now left with 6 blue, 6 brown and then the ceiling wires being in the connector block.

I've also got another one of these to wire but will replicate whatever I do on one to the other as the wires from the ceiling are the same.

 

[ETAF]

no your diagram now does not look right - you are joining all the brown wires together NOT correct

see the diagram with 3 connector blocks all separate - is effectively what you need , with the end 2 connections 2 shown as lamp = the 6 switched live and 6 neutral

you also need to put the wagos into a box - not just loose in the ceiling

 

[lg_diy]

How come? Surely all the brown wires from the light fittings need to go together? And then just your switching wire from the ceiling also going with them? Leaving the rest of the looped browns in the connector block already there? (Won't be touching this)

 

[terryplumb]

A picture of your new light fitting would be useful.
There are 3 earth conductors in your pic ,as well as one blue with brown tape ( the switched live),2 blue neutrals ,and 3 brown line.

 

[ETAF]

sorry - yes, mixed up the way round

How come? Surely all the brown wires from the light fittings need to go together?

 

[lg_diy]

So this is the state of the light fitting at the moment and the second image is the state of the ceiling.

 

[lg_diy]

you also need to put the wagos into a box - not just loose in the ceiling

They'll be sat inside the light fitting, they don't need to be in a box then do they?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Minus 1 earth maybe? One of the pairs coming from the ceiling does not have an earth?

I'll bet it does.

 

[lg_diy]

I'll bet it does.

My bad, looks like it's been braided together with one of the others, initially only looked like one to me