Wrong Handed door

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  1. Rincewindwiz

    Rincewindwiz

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    I have inherited a lounge door with handle that has the wrong hand (up to open)
    I've taken it apart but can't see how I can change it so it is down to open.
    I cant believe it is not possible because other doors with the same handles opening the same way work 'correctly'
    Any suggestions welcome
    Thx
    Lounge Door Handles.jpg
     
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    those handles are down to open the must have been installed upside down the longer length is at the bottom and can contain a key hole

    i assume they are upside down to outfox a pet or young child ??
     
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    I doubt it. All door handles in the house are the same design and installed with the long side down. Some (eg bathroom) have a lightly longer back plate to provide space for a locking knob but all are installed long side down.
    Some open Left Handed and some Right.
    This is the only one that does not open by pushing the handle down.
    And I cant imagine why anyone would do this deliberately on the lounge door.
     
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    Sorry, I'm confused! :confused:
    If the long side is down, then the picture of the handles - with the attached cam and pin - mean they can only open when the handle is pulled down?

    ...Unless the handle is usually angled downwards, and you lift it to perpendicular, to open the door????? :eek:

    Which, judging by the angle of the bar in the latch, may be the case!
    If so replace the latch - check your measurements and visit screwfix! :)
     
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    they are lhs and rhside pairs wrong way round go up or cover the architraves so wont open in other words paired so can only do a quarter turn ----
    ----or am i misunderstanding the problem -------which i can do ------ quite often :D
     
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    That was my initial thought!
    But, given the resting position/angle of the bar, and the dent in the latch - I suspect that the bar would be holding the handle at a downward angle.
    Lifting the handle to horizontal would open the latch! o_O

    Edit:
    For that to make sense, the latch in the picture has also been photographed upsidedown! :ROFLMAO:
     
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    we can actually ignore the latch as it will function a quarter turn in any direction as it will either throw the top arm back anticlock wise or the bottom arm clockwise so will open regardless so any movement will push the bolt back returned by spring pressure
     
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    Unless the handle is facing the architrave, or is on upsidedown, I'm going with Sherlock Holmes on this one! :D

    "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
     
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    Sorry for the confusion.
    This picture is of the door handles assembled (but without the door!). In this position the latch is pulled inwards when the handles are pushed down. Perfect

    BUT the door closes 'away' from the viewer of the picture and the sloping side of the latch points towards the viewer (so when you shut the door the sloping side is the wrong side to engage with the door jamb.

    The latch mechanism is closed with a rivet so it seems to me I have to get a new latch - one with the sloping side on the other side.

    But it seems daft to make a door handle mechanism that was not reversible so I thought maybe I was missing a trick on how to reverse the 'hand'.

    AM I?
    Lounge Door Handles 2.jpg
     
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    PS And the square hole driving the latch mechanism will only turn one way (so I cant simply turn that component upside down).
     
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    So just for my curiosity, was the handle normally sitting at a slight downward angle and you pulled it up to open the door? :)

    Anyway, some latch mechanisms can have the end pulled out against a spring and rotated. But normally, with this type of latch, you would just turn it upsidedown!
     
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    All other handles in the house rest horizontal and push downwards to open.

    Upside down: Yes my first thought (well 3rd actually!) but its not possible (hence the PS above). Effing stupid design IMHO!
     
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    Can you remove circlip, flip the spring over and change the resting position of the cam.
    Or have a look inside another one and set it up the same.
     
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    Maybe the door has been recycled and fitted upside down.
    Is the handle position a bit higher than normal?
    Can you see old hinges cutouts on the door?
     
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