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Yale 5 Lever Mortice Sashlock Spring Fitting

Discussion in 'Windows and Doors' started by Pete Jones, 28 Aug 2019.

  1. Pete Jones

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    Made a mistake and took the cover off the lock to switch the catch round (didn't realise there was a specific screw for this until it was too late) and PING! Out pops a spring and I don't know where it fits.

    Anyone know?

    Cheers
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    Lock.jpg Here y'go!
     
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    I think the spring is a bit small to fit round that on this model - will give it a go.
     
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    Pete,
    I think you are correct that it will not go where I first suggested.

    So in that case I believe it goes on the lower spindle to push against the flat side of the silver key hole metal. (it uses a flat plate spring in the photo I provided).

    Screenshot 2019-08-28 at 15.30.38.png

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    Thanks, but mine already has a flat spring in place like in your second pic.
     
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    it does look to me like it goes on the handle follower, to return it to the "closed" position.

    On some locks, the spindle is a different diameter on the lower part, under the "lug" that pushes on the latch return extension.

    I haven't got a Yale here
     
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    If in doubt, try try again (but in this case I gave up and bought another one) :LOL: I can keep this one as a spare.
     
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    I have a 3K74E, which is not identical but has some design similarities. You can probably see what I had in mind. It lookks like it is loosely wrapped round the spindle, but it tightens up when pre-loaded by part turning the follower before re-fitting the plate. You need a spindle or large screwdriver to hold the follower of this model in place during assembly or the spring moves it.

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    It seems a bit big to fit round that spindle. I did send a message to Yale, but I doubt they will get back to me about it.
     
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    Pete, I know you have bought a new one, So now I am simply guessing... will it fit on the top spindle shown in this image, so that the bent bit pushes the top moving plate?

    Screenshot 2019-08-28 at 16.17.24.png

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    Lock 02.jpg Yes it does fit on there, but there's no pressure from the spring, so it's not doing anything:
     
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    Yes but shouldn't the little short stubby bit of the spring be tucked in between the peg and the casing, then it would have tension Screenshot_20190828-213916_Samsung Internet.jpg
     
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    That worked a treat, thanks a lot! I have fitted the lock and now the back door is secure again - it was only being held in place with a rack bolt this past couple of days.
     
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