Spurs
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holmslaw
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without seeing it it's impossible to say..
is the double socket a spur?
does the FCU feed the double socket?
how many wires in the FCU and socket?
is the double socket a spur?
does the FCU feed the double socket?
how many wires in the FCU and socket?
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The double socket is part of a ring in one room. From that there's a cable going to a single box then from the single box there is a cable going to the 2nd double socket which is what is needed. so the single box has a supply spurd from the ring and an out going cable to the socket. So if I make that a fcu that's ok?
S
sparkyspike
Yes
A single spur from a ring circuit in 2.5mm TE can handle 1 x double socket.
Adding on a 3 socket fitting could / will overload the circuit.
Best thing to do is to fit a 13A fused spur before the 1st socket to prevent overloading on the existing single socket and the 3 way socket you intend to fit.
So you will end up with a max load across the 4 socket outlets (1 +3) of 13A x 230v = 3000w (about!).
That's fine for light loads such as a digital TV, a lamp etc..
You will have limitations, so plugging in say electric heating, an iron, hair straightners isn't sensible.
The only way to avoid the load restriction is to open up the ring that the spur is fed from and make both the existing single socket and the new 3 way socket part of the ring.
Adding on a 3 socket fitting could / will overload the circuit.
Best thing to do is to fit a 13A fused spur before the 1st socket to prevent overloading on the existing single socket and the 3 way socket you intend to fit.
So you will end up with a max load across the 4 socket outlets (1 +3) of 13A x 230v = 3000w (about!).
That's fine for light loads such as a digital TV, a lamp etc..
You will have limitations, so plugging in say electric heating, an iron, hair straightners isn't sensible.
The only way to avoid the load restriction is to open up the ring that the spur is fed from and make both the existing single socket and the new 3 way socket part of the ring.
G
Goldberg
You're wrong.
You're wrong.
That's exactly what's he's already doing.
There will be three sockets, not four.
It's also fine for heavy loads, such as a washing machine, tumble dryer, iron, or fan heater. In fact, anything that can be plugged into a socket.
Why not? What do you think would happen?
There would still be a load restriction.
Hello Goldberg- How was your week ?
Picking holes seems to be your favourite activity, worse still you do so without anything other than the use of monosyllabic responses.
See comments against your remarks. Just for once please trying to avoid monosyllabic responses,
But not at the 13A that the fused spur gives. Are you saying that the ring extension option wouldn't be better ?
Picking holes seems to be your favourite activity, worse still you do so without anything other than the use of monosyllabic responses.
See comments against your remarks. Just for once please trying to avoid monosyllabic responses,
You're wrong.
So what can a single spur cable handle via 2.5mm TE
So what can a single fused spur handle via 2.5mm TE
You're wrong.
So you think a 13A fused spur with 1 x single and 1 x 3 socket fitting will cope with 4 items plugged in, all drawing 13A
That's exactly what's he's already doing.
Thanks for the correction
There will be three sockets, not four.
It's also fine for heavy loads, such as a washing machine, tumble dryer, iron, or fan heater. In fact, anything that can be plugged into a socket.
How do you get that ? The fused spur limits the total loading of all sockets beyond the spur to 13A, after that it's change spur fuse time.
If your going to contradict, please offer accuracy- ambiguity isn't helpfull.
Why not? What do you think would happen?
Doh, lets guess
There would still be a load restriction.
But not at the 13A that the fused spur gives. Are you saying that the ring extension option wouldn't be better ?
G
Goldberg
More than 13A. That's thir-teen Amp-eres, using multi-syllable nomenclature.
13A (please see above for the remaining syllables).
Of course - it will handle it by blowing the fuse.
You're welcome.Thanks for the correction
Well then, change the fuse.
Please explain which of my contradictions was incorrect. Or ambiguous.
I have no need to guess - I know exactly what will happen.Doh, lets guess
I'm saying no such thing. Which one of my "monosyllables" confused you?
no, YOU'RE wrong.. HE is right..
you can only spur ONE double or sinlg socket from a ring main unless it is fused down..
G
Goldberg
So, he intended to fuse the spur, then run three sockets (or doubles) off that.
No problem. Until this:
I pointed out that this is exactly what bertken is already doing.
You can list all of the things he's not doing, and point out which ones are illegal or unsafe, but it would be irrelevant because he's not doing them or planning to do them.
in the absense of you explaining WHY he's wrong, then your coment of "you're wrong" to a stateent that is categorically true, then it it you that is wrong.. no matter how you try and spin it.
the comment that "A single spur from a ring circuit in 2.5mm TE can handle 1 x double socket." is absolutely correct.
the comment that "A single spur from a ring circuit in 2.5mm TE can handle 1 x double socket." is absolutely correct.
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