cooker socket

scottygio · 10 Aug 2006

i want to install my cooker socket below the worktop but behind the base unit (rear cover of base unit stripped out). To isolate the cooker you would then open the base door and switch off the socket. Is there anything wrong with this? the cooker circuit is protected by a rcd.

regards

scott

Spark123 · 10 Aug 2006

I wouldn't advise you do it like this, you really need to have some means of readily accessable isolation in case of emergency. Can you fit a DP switch above the work surface (not behind the cooker though) to kill the supply this socket? What type of cooker are you talking about?

ban-all-sheds · 10 Aug 2006

Why do so many people have this obsession with hiding sockets and switches away?

Steve · 10 Aug 2006

ban-all-sheds said:
Why do so many people have this obsession with hiding sockets and switches away?

i dont understand it either, you can get some very attractive metallic finish sockets and switches and other accessories. One look in the screwfix catalogue will tell you this! And B&Q also have a very good selection of sockets and switches, just dont take advice off their staff.

securespark · 10 Aug 2006

ban-all-sheds said:
Why do so many people have this obsession with hiding sockets and switches away?

I used to work for a guy selling TOTR kitchens where 50K on a kitchen was not unusual.

When you pay 50K, you don't want switches cluttering up the splashbacks.

Imagine a run of tiles. Now imagine the same run broken up with switches that need not be there.

We even used to fit appliance cupboards with sockets inside them so they could be concealed too.

The difference was we used to make ours more accessible than in a base unit...

ban-all-sheds · 10 Aug 2006

Everybody, whether they are spending £500 or £50,000 on a new kitchen needs to repeat the following until they have got it into their thick, pathetic and pretentious heads.

A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.
A kitchen is a place of work.

etc

fireman22 · 10 Aug 2006

ban, dont tell my wife that

fireman22 · 10 Aug 2006

she'll want paying!

scottygio · 11 Aug 2006

The oven is an electric hotpoint (the hob will be gas). The thing is I will still have a means of isolation albeit behind a base door. You are probably talking about a second longer to open the base door and isolate it. My main concern is the regs, is there anything in the regs that say you can't fit a n isolating cooker socket behind an acccessible base door?

regards

scott

Spark123 · 11 Aug 2006

The question is, if your oven is going up in smoke are you going to start moving tins of beans and looking for the switch? What if you are not in? I think common sense has to over-rule on this one.

Steve · 11 Aug 2006

if you MUST, put the switch JUST inside the door, right at the front. But it is not "readily accessible" according to the regs.

ban-all-sheds · 11 Aug 2006

Scott - a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch
a kitchen is a place of work, it doesn't matter if you can see a switch

securespark · 11 Aug 2006

crafty1289 said:
if you MUST, put the switch JUST inside the door, right at the front. But it is not "readily accessible" according to the regs.

Building Regs now advise against the installation of electrical accessories on any other surface than the fabric of the building.

reggie perrin · 12 Aug 2006

crafty1289 said:
i dont understand it either, you can get some very attractive metallic finish sockets and switches and other accessories.

Especially the brass ones with the rope effect.

I also like cod in butter sauce.

And Posh Pot Noodles.

Do you?

Krypt · 12 Aug 2006

Kind of related:

I just got a new kitchen from Ikea and they also installed it - well a sub contractor did.

I tried to keep out of their way most of the time but noticed they changed my old cooker switch (massive red switch on it) to what looked like a normal 2 gang socket. They then plugged the new fitted oven and hob into this.

I never thought it might be against any regulations until I just read this - is it a requirement to have an isolator switch above the worktop?

I did find some of the other things they did a bit weird which I will mention when I give them a call on Monday - should I bring this up too?

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