Thatcher Dead

[peterperfection]

It's all been 'downhill' for this country since Maggie stepped down.
The 'here today' -'gone tomorrow' scrotes who performed that disgusting dity in the last post-- just are not fit to lick Maggies boots.

She will be remembered as one of our finest prime ministers--and rightly so too.

Thank you Maggie for chucking all the lazy trade union protected lumps of lard off the gravey train.

 

[AronSearle]

Society will not miss her

"There is no such thing as Society"

I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour.

What an evil crow

 

[ImayKnow]

Maggie wouldn't have allowed the country to get into its current state. RIP my darling.

 

[securespark]

Jesus wept.

 

[enyam]

Jesus wept.

Is that because he's just about to meet her.

 

[GrahamPearce]

She took on the unions and won.

She took on the Argentinians and won.

Those that remember the times, will remember the state the UK was in when she took office.

She left it in far better condition than she found it, which is more than can be said for ALL that followed.

RIP....

 

[JBR]

A bit silly having two threads on the same subject, however:

Call me all the names you want - she was the best prime minister in my lifetime and had more balls than all her male successors.

Personally, I'm sad to hear of her death, but at least it was a peaceful end.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Maggie got a lot right as well as getting a few things wrong. Any of her wrongs however, are nothing to what Blair and Brown did to this country.

One thing I don't doubt about her, is that she was a patriot who put her country first in the EU vipers nest and when our territory was invaded in 1982. I think history will also be kinder to her a Reagan in facing down the Soviet Union, and freeing millions from it's yoke.

Brown and Blair were just liars and charlatains, who sold this country down the river. Then Blair got extremely rich for his treachery. Some socialist.

When those two pass to the other side, I will be having a monumental celebration.

 

[JohnD]

I will be having a monumental celebration.

So you agree with the principle of celebrating the death of a politician you dislike.

 

[Whitespirit66]

I will be having a monumental celebration.

So you agree with the principle of celebrating the death of a politician you dislike.

Not normally. Just balancing out some of the irrational venom in evidence on the two Thatcher threads.

Brown was a particularly loathsome character, and I can't see any right-thinking people shedding a tear for either of them.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Society will not miss her

"There is no such thing as Society"

So you agree with misquoting someone, to completely alter what they were saying, to get maximum effect?

In context, what she said was quite innocuous.

 

[ellal]

Society will not miss her

"There is no such thing as Society"

Do you agree with misquoting someone, to completely alter what they were saying, to get maximum effect?

In context, what she said was quite innocuous.

Hmm...

Not actually misquoting?

They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first.

Well she and her cronies certainly took that last bit literally!

 

[enyam]

Think the full text should be quoted.

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.'
They're casting their problem on society.
And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families.

And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first.
It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour.

People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

Seems as relevant today(maybe more so) then back then.

 

[jeds]

I'm ambivalent on Thatcher myself. She was a bit of a loon on many things but it could be argued that that was the very quality that enabled her to do her best work. Spotting a few 'best and worst PM' polls on the web today, there's one thing for sure. She rates up there on most of the 'best' polls whereas Brown - very closely followed by Blair - is cast in stone on top of the 'worst' polls.

 

[joinerjohn]

Probably the best post war politician since Churchill. Like her or hate her, there's hundreds of thousands of ex council house owners up and down the country who would still be renting, were it not for her. The Falklands would now be known as the Malvinas if it were not for her. Everyone seems to remember the Poll Tax, but forgets it was Labour controlled councils who asked you to pay more than the government suggested (then blamed it on the government).