please help me CORGI

[AtoZ]

corgi is a tick box exercise that enables someone to be sued......

that is all it is! it is meant to ensure standards but all it does is give the courts someone to crucify.. fact


i wonder how long corgi has been around and mandatory! (i could google it but i can remember it coming in)

did the old boys who taught you, have corgi? (i suppose it depends on your age) but does that mean they were not competent?????

if corgi was discredited overnight, for any reason, the country wouldnt have any gas fitters. no govt would leave themselves in that position! or in a position to have a legal challenge over it.. thats why it will always be possible to fit a boiler without that ticket. it is a myth that we all eventually buy into. building inspectors used to look, and help, in building works but now they wont move without a structural engineer, even for dead standard works. same thing!

the answers given here show that none of you lot are 100% sure of the legal arguments and try to resort to google to find out..


i know a man who was a prison governor, they trained prisoners for british gas who were then sent out to do works for BG when they were released.
i wonder how many of those guys had done a boiler hanging/positioning before they did their bird! how competent are those guys!


i hung my boiler while my plumber looked how to link my pipe work.
i did the electrics for the boiler to plug into. i did the pipework as i built my extension (no leaks)
i fitted the condensing bucket into the ground outside..

my boiler had a factory fault (a misshaped piece of copper pipe that linked to the pump) it showed up after 15 days.

after some rubbish customer service, i had the managing director of worcester bosch on the phone. i had a normal service engineer come out and tell me that the boiler was faulty, then worcesters top engineer come from the factory.

they told me that they would need to examine the installation as this was the likely cause...
guess what! it passed with flying colours!
bosch changed my 15 day old boiler into the exact same install. the back frame,with pipework, was even left on from the first boiler.

i dont claim to be a plumber/fitter but some of you boys need to get over yourselves.
i would expect that my pipework has been in place longer than some of you have been working..
most of any trade is not that hard.

it is a diy forum and that happy matey was entitled to ask!

 

[D_Hailsham]

Mid Wales gas engineer prosecuted for unauthorised gas work .

Cost him £6750 and 280 hours community service.

 

[sooey]

it is a diy forum and that happy matey was entitled to ask!

He asked, he got answered. What's your problem? You seem very proud of the fact that you installed your own system, well done. But if you want to do it as a business you will need to be corgi registered, with all of the attendant costs. Incidentally, we are all 100% sure of that.

 

[aptsys]

You will also need to have to have the electrical connection to the boiler certified by the way.

When I come across a job where there is new electricity but no report, I start with checking the leccie. And it usually fails.

work was classed as not needing notification to LABC:

...

(ii) adding socket outlets and fused spurs to an
existing ring or radial circuit.

 

[bengasman]

You will also need to have to have the electrical connection to the boiler certified by the way.

When I come across a job where there is new electricity but no report, I start with checking the leccie. And it usually fails.

work was classed as not needing notification to LABC:

...

(ii) adding socket outlets and fused spurs to an
existing ring or radial circuit.

Will still need minor works certificate to show this particular circuit including the earth and meb is fine.
notified or not matters little to me; I want to be sure that it is installed properly and tested to be safe. I have seen to many connections that had either no earth connected at all, or so poor it would do little good. ptl for 17th edition consumer units

 

[BigBurner]

corgi is a tick box exercise that enables someone to be sued......

that is all it is! it is meant to ensure standards but all it does is give the courts someone to crucify.. fact

Corgi is a registration authority - nothing else. It keeps a list of those who are entitled to practice gas for profit and issues them badges. It is not HSE, the building regulations or BS. It has no authority on DIY installed installations.

 

[AtoZ]

corgi is a tick box exercise that enables someone to be sued......

that is all it is! it is meant to ensure standards but all it does is give the courts someone to crucify.. fact

Corgi is a registration authority - nothing else. It keeps a list of those who are entitled to practice gas for profit and issues them badges. It is not HSE, the building regulations or BS. It has no authority on DIY installed installations.

interesting
for myself, i will get one of you lads around if i need the boiler doing

 

[AtoZ]

it is a diy forum and that happy matey was entitled to ask!

He asked, he got answered. What's your problem? You seem very proud of the fact that you installed your own system, well done. But if you want to do it as a business you will need to be corgi registered, with all of the attendant costs. Incidentally, we are all 100% sure of that.

yeah
and!

sick of people like you ganging up on a man for asking a question.
your work is not that hard, it is not a craft skill like plastering.
it is a skill like car mechanics with a lot fewer variables- fact.

you ignore the relevance of the post to suit your own purpose, which is to boost your own importance. every building site has one

incidentally.. you failed to mention that a few corgis wouldactually do the work if they could set out conditions for it, funny that!

stop sucking air through your teeth and be a little bit more helpful.

dont want to do the work then dont! but dont dig out a man for trying.


edit.. lead burning is hard but most of you dont do that... so

 

[aptsys]

Will still need minor works certificate to show this particular circuit including the earth and meb is fine.

While you may refuse work without one, the point I was making there is no requirement for a MWS for the fused spur (unless in a special location).

 

[sooey]

sick of people like you ganging up on a man for asking a question.
your work is not that hard, it is not a craft skill like plastering.
it is a skill like car mechanics with a lot fewer variables- fact.

What makes you think that you know enough to judge? For that matter, who has been claiming that it is 'hard'?

you ignore the relevance of the post to suit your own purpose, which is to boost your own importance. every building site has one

The only relevance of your previous post seems to have been to enable you to shout out about how good you are, whilst denigrating others.

corgi is a tick box exercise that enables someone to be sued......

that is all it is! it is meant to ensure standards but all it does is give the courts someone to crucify.. fact

I agree, and guess who the one who gets crucified is, the homeowner who installs his own system or the corgi who signs it off?

What's hard about lead burning? Apart from freezing your nuts off doing it in this weather of course.

 

[roguetrader]

edit.. lead burning is hard but most of you dont do that... so

those of us that did a proper apprenticship will have experience of it, I do a fair bit as it happens. I don't understand your point? I think what has gotten most peoples backs up is the op's forceful manner. whatever anyone says, acs, the relevent appliance tests and the whole experience of belonging to the gas industry is a stressful life, its hard to keep up to date and keep on top of all the hoop jumping necessary. you have to make a lot of sacrifices to get and stay qualified. if the phrase 'its not rocket science, anyone can do it' is true, why not give it a go? see how far you get.

 

[nwph]

I cannot understand the answer you would like from everyone ,the op is not prepared to pay the price he has been quoted ,and asuming the length of time the job should take and making conclusions on how much is profit and how easy the job should be ,is just getting people's backs up .

Me personally from experience will not now do installations involving people installing there own pipework and rads .its just not worth the hassle .

If the op was in yorkshire ,he may get the job done for the lowest of the quoted prices ,by one of the many local registered cowboys .

And comparing a plasterer with a heating engineer and bragging about your diy skills shows just how little you really know ,i bet you tell everyone who knocks on your door that your pipework was approved by the top boy from worcester bosch ,and you found the boiler fault all by yourself .

 

[Softus]

the answers given here show that none of you lot are 100% sure of the legal arguments and try to resort to google to find out.

I can think of one person who's "100% sure of the "legal arguments", so please come and have a go, if you think you're hard enough.

 

[Norcon]

ding ding. Round one.

 

[Estrella]

I can think of one person who's "100% sure of the "legal arguments", so please come and have a go, if you think you're hard enough.

Gimme a break