The electrician has to fill the form. In the page 3, he has to fill the ES number. He did not know how to fill it. He could not reference it to any BS. So he gave up the test. He did say that the setting of the fuse boxes sound very good and safe. But I need the report and need the "satisfactory" results which he could not do.
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That's for the suppliers fuse and technically he shouldn't be messing with it. It's not uncommon for that piece of information to come under limitations (LIM).
There is no way that installation could get a satisfactory certificate put on it regardless of whether you know the BS number or not.
The fuses are BS3036. This is what the certificate asks for, not what standard the fuse holder is manufactured to. I don't know what this 'ES' number is that you refer to it, but I have never been asked for it on any certificate I have ever issued.
The fuses are BS3036. This is what the certificate asks for, not what standard the fuse holder is manufactured to. I don't know what this 'ES' number is that you refer to it, but I have never been asked for it on any certificate I have ever issued.
He's talking about BS EN (European Standard).
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Oh right. OP, where it asks for BS(EN) number, it is asking for either a BS number, a BSEN number or an EN number. Any one of these is fine.
It's still a definate unsatisfactory installation.
It's still a definate unsatisfactory installation.
It is not BS3036, the electrician said. It is older than BS3036, he said. It rewire able fuse. Are my images not appeared? I am sorry. I do not know what is wrong.
That installation is seriously old - the main problem is the fusing is double pole (both L and N) (which usually indicates pre 1940). I'm not sure if DP fusing even meets the electricity supply regulations.
An installation of that age is likely to have extensions and additions which may be of dubious character too. An electrician might take the view that the installation is of such an age it is not possible to evaluate it according to current regulations and standards.
It's not. I wouldn't fancy disconnecting VIR conductors for testing without risk of damaging them. There's no doubt about it, a rewire is needed.
What surprises me though is that the only thing stopping this so called 'electrician' giving a satisfactory report is that he can't find a BS number on a fuse carrier
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A PIR is and has always been carried out to the current version of BS7671
An installation like yours with fused neutrals and no PEBs is not just unsatisfactory, it is down right dangerous.
An installation like yours with fused neutrals and no PEBs is not just unsatisfactory, it is down right dangerous.
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If I had been doing a PIR it would get code 3 and I would not touch it.
Asbestosis pads on fuses and string on door means it needs special firm to remove it with all the gear to clean it up.
Asbestosis pads on fuses and string on door means it needs special firm to remove it with all the gear to clean it up.
Let us know how your electrician proceeds with this. Good luck.
Plus I wonder how intact the cpcs are after all these years.....
I do not know who I should trust. It seems that every electrician needs to find himself some job to do. Obviously, after they sentenced your house death, they can then offer some "professional" rubbish to help. I really doubt their professionalism. For example, the socket on the skirt board can be code 4, or code 2 according to different electricians. The fire alarm could be any code. My God, may be it is better I myself to pass the qualification exams and register as an electrician.
Am I right in thinking you are accusing us of saying your installation is unsafe just to generate our selves work?
Your installaton is heading on for 80 years old, and is most definatly not safe.
I have no work generating reasons to say this. I have no idea who you are or where you live, and I don't do domestic installation work.
If you want to learn this trade then go for it, and hopefully you will start to realise how unsafe that installation is once you have gained even just a very basic understanding of electical supplies.
Your installaton is heading on for 80 years old, and is most definatly not safe.
I have no work generating reasons to say this. I have no idea who you are or where you live, and I don't do domestic installation work.
If you want to learn this trade then go for it, and hopefully you will start to realise how unsafe that installation is once you have gained even just a very basic understanding of electical supplies.
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