Garden lights

[Passepartout]

I want to run a daisy chain of lights along the washing line from the back of my house down to the garden shed. The easiest way of running the wire to do this would be to open up the ceiling rose in my kitchen and patch in to the earth, neutral and switched live so I can control it via the kitchen rocker light switch. Luckily there is already a hole in my old timber doorframe which has been filled in with mastic, so I should be able to drill this out to take the wire through.

Can anyone see any problem with doing this? The washing line is plastic coated steel wire so it will easily take the weight.

 

[flameport]

Everything you are proposing is completely unacceptable for a whole load of reasons.

 

[holmslaw]

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[Passepartout]

Both highly useful comments which I don't even uderstand why you took the time to bother to reply.

Can anyone else on this DIY assistance site help me with this DIY job?

 

[Sherbertlion]

You might want to consider running a 3C+E from the rose to the light switch and installing a 2G switch so you can get the full effect from the new garden lights with the kitchen lights off.

 

[riveralt]

I want to run a daisy chain of lights along the washing line from the back of my house down to the garden shed.

What is the height of the washing line?
How many and what type of lights are you going to use?
What size cable do you propose to use.
How are you going to secure - the washing line - the cable - and the lights?

Why do you want to do it?????????????

The easiest way of running the wire to do this would be to open up the ceiling rose in my kitchen and patch in to the earth, neutral and switched live so I can control it via the kitchen rocker light switch.

Luckily there is already a hole in my old timber doorframe which has been filled in with mastic, so I should be able to drill this out to take the wire through.

Can anyone see any problem with doing this?

Answers required from questions above but - Yes - loads of problems.

The washing line is plastic coated steel wire so it will easily take the weight.

How do you know what weight it can carry?
What do the washing line manufacturers instructions say for hanging live electric lights to it - they should give an indication of how many and what size cable to use. If you don't have the instructions to hand give them a ring and they will advise you accordingly.

 

[Passepartout]

With the festive season coming up I was looking at something from these

I see them all over the place outside houses so I can't understand what all the fuss on here is about.

 

[holmslaw]

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[riveralt]

With the festive season coming up I was looking at something from these

Okay but why not just run the extension cable that they suggest rather than jerry rigging up something from your kitchen ceiling rose.

 

[Passepartout]

Because I have wasted my time reading your nonsense, therefore it's worth my time to advise others not to bother.

"Age higher than iq"!!! Whose? Yours most likely by the sound of it. Ignoramus maximus.
I have written this because I have read your nonsense and feel it's worth my time advising others of your rudeness and stupidity.

 

[Passepartout]

With the festive season coming up I was looking at something from these

Okay but why not just run the extension cable that they suggest rather than jerry rigging up something from your kitchen ceiling rose.

Because the design of the electrics in my kitchen means that I will have the wire going across the floor or up the wall and taped across the ceiling before it gets to the doorway. As there is a pendant pretty close to the back door, I thought it would be the easiest way of running the wire while also giving me easy switching on and off

 

[ELZ4742]

your in effect changing the properties of the circuit in a kitchen so you will need this to be signed off by a qualified body, so please dont be offended if people do not give you the advice you require.

 

[Passepartout]

your in effect changing the properties of the circuit in a kitchen so you will need this to be signed off by a qualified body, so please dont be offended if people do not give you the advice you require.

All I am doing is in effect plugging a light into an existing light circuit so that I don't have extention cables all over the floor or cupboard doors and even then it's only for a few weeks until xmas is over.

The only thing I have been offended by is the ridiculous nonsense from one poster in particular whose sole input was to be rude and unhelpful presumably because he has some character problems which he feels big and hard enough to try to bully people on here but I doubt he would ever have the balls to do it face to face.

If nobody wanted to answer my request for advice then that would be fine but it is just stupid to provide a non answer. Who the hell does he think he is telling others what to think or contribute. Sad little "man" if you ask me

 

[bernardgreen]

Your original posting made no mention that they were a string of lights manufactured to a quality suitable for outside use provided certain safeguards were in place.

I read it as written bya poorly informed person about to make a possibly seriously wrong decision about an installation that had all the signs of being very dangerous and hazardous to life.

That said connecting outdoor temporary lighting to the domestic lighting circuit is NOT a sensible or safe option.

Outdoor installations must be fed via an RCB device for safety reasons.

If you lighting circuit to which you connect the outdoor lights has an RCB then the risk electrocution in the garden is reduced but not eliminated. But when the outdoor lights trip the RCB you will also lose your lighting in the house. Not good if you have a person in the garden suffering the effects of the electric shock that tripped the RCB. Finding a phone and torch in sudden darkness can be difficult.

The person might be an intruder who grabs the lights, damages them and is electrocuted as a result. You take the rap for the injury or death. Manslaughter is a possible verdict if the installation does not comply with regulations and safety requirements.

Electrical work in the kitch comes under Part P of the building regulations.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Actually, Part P (in fact all of the Building Regulations) applies to any work whatsoever on fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer’s side of the electricity supply meter which operate at low or extra-low voltage and are—
(a) in or attached to a dwelling;
(b) in the common parts of a building serving one or more dwellings, but excluding power supplies to lifts;
(c) in a building that receives its electricity from a source located within or shared with a dwelling; or
(d) in a garden or in or on land associated with a building where the electricity is from a source located within or shared with a dwelling.