Oh you two, Tony got a quick question did you do you level two at eastleigh college? Had a guy there with the same name that's all?
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DO I NEED 10 AAVs
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I would still only do boiler and furthest rad if I'm honest, but then I wouldn't leave loads of air in it or want to keep going back to top the boiler up when the air starts poping out of ten aav's. But see where you are coming from Nigel
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expertgasman
The OP clearly explained the situation, even in capitals, and only mentioned the original fitter and no other person.
Agile Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:36 pm Post Subject:
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Tonys previous post:
I do hope this instraller was cheap!
He is clearly a nupty!
Any competent installer would have been able to identify any potential problems BEFORE he fitted the boiler!
You really are a little stupid, Tony. Everyone read the OP as a boiler changeover, and reading your earlier post, above, so did you.
Agile Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:36 pm Post Subject:
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Tonys previous post:
I do hope this instraller was cheap!
He is clearly a nupty!
Any competent installer would have been able to identify any potential problems BEFORE he fitted the boiler!
You really are a little stupid, Tony. Everyone read the OP as a boiler changeover, and reading your earlier post, above, so did you.
yep i would said boiler swap aqnd i think 10aav means one two things
shody pipe work really shody
or bull manure
shody pipe work really shody
or bull manure
OP wrote
In a bungalow F&R could be going into the loft space, thus needing 2 AAVs is loft not 'developed'
Fail to see why there would be a need to put further 4 pairs of AAVs. Distinct possibilty there are other issues with this installation/ boiler change and AAVs is a 'poke and hope' remedy.
Fail to see how anyone can come up with an answer based on what the poster has written.
In a bungalow F&R could be going into the loft space, thus needing 2 AAVs is loft not 'developed'
Fail to see why there would be a need to put further 4 pairs of AAVs. Distinct possibilty there are other issues with this installation/ boiler change and AAVs is a 'poke and hope' remedy.
Fail to see how anyone can come up with an answer based on what the poster has written.
The boiler installer would usually be able to deal with the air problem with just 2-4 AAVs in the loft.
We have not seen the pipework so more MIGHT be needed. Any competent installer would be aware of potential air problems with loft pipework and included any remedial works in his quote.
Regardless, AAVs are under £10 each and might take say 2 hours to fit and test.
The boiler changer should have identified the likely problem ( as most of us here would have ) and the home owner should not have to pay extra in my opinion.
When I quote a price thats what I expect to charge. If I were to overlook anything then thats my fault and not the customer's.
Tony
We have not seen the pipework so more MIGHT be needed. Any competent installer would be aware of potential air problems with loft pipework and included any remedial works in his quote.
Regardless, AAVs are under £10 each and might take say 2 hours to fit and test.
The boiler changer should have identified the likely problem ( as most of us here would have ) and the home owner should not have to pay extra in my opinion.
When I quote a price thats what I expect to charge. If I were to overlook anything then thats my fault and not the customer's.
Tony
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When I quote a price thats what I expect to charge. If I were to overlook anything then thats my fault and not the customer's.
Tony[/quote]
I don't disagree with you there, Tony, it's just all the other carp you feel determined to type.
Tony[/quote]
I don't disagree with you there, Tony, it's just all the other carp you feel determined to type.
Many thanks to all who have bothered to reply.
I seem to have stumbled across a forum for qualified trades persons and from the banter it is obvious that there are varying standards within this group, as a lay person who is finding it very difficult in these trying times to find honest people to do work I do appreciate your attention to this matter.
As a retired pensioner I´m sure that I speak for thousands of clients who are prepared to pay a good wage for a good job so see no reason for the slick cowboys who will only and always be just that, if you fall into this category may I suggest you hang up your stetson and try the honest route, you know what your doing and you would not like it done to your parents or grand-parents.
Further to this matter, please note, I have never mentioned the name of the fitter, I shall reserve that for the courts if need be.
In conclusion I have enjoyed the forum. Thank you one and all
I seem to have stumbled across a forum for qualified trades persons and from the banter it is obvious that there are varying standards within this group, as a lay person who is finding it very difficult in these trying times to find honest people to do work I do appreciate your attention to this matter.
As a retired pensioner I´m sure that I speak for thousands of clients who are prepared to pay a good wage for a good job so see no reason for the slick cowboys who will only and always be just that, if you fall into this category may I suggest you hang up your stetson and try the honest route, you know what your doing and you would not like it done to your parents or grand-parents.
Further to this matter, please note, I have never mentioned the name of the fitter, I shall reserve that for the courts if need be.
In conclusion I have enjoyed the forum. Thank you one and all
I've enjoyed reading this forum, not only because of the possible 10 AAV's that are required (which I doubt), but because of the backtalk by the engineers - here to help you!
As a RGI and qualified Plumber I would not expect an installation to be designed and installed to have so many airlock problems, warranting this number of vents to overcome a problem.
As 'Agile' has stated, which I believe, with all good intentions - IF you are local to us we are willing to advise for free, what needs to be done to overcome your problem.
All the RGI's on this forum are dedicated to their profession, and want to provide an excellent service, so I suggest, perhaps you may wish to pick one of them local, to check out your problem and advise.
As a RGI and qualified Plumber I would not expect an installation to be designed and installed to have so many airlock problems, warranting this number of vents to overcome a problem.
As 'Agile' has stated, which I believe, with all good intentions - IF you are local to us we are willing to advise for free, what needs to be done to overcome your problem.
All the RGI's on this forum are dedicated to their profession, and want to provide an excellent service, so I suggest, perhaps you may wish to pick one of them local, to check out your problem and advise.
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Tony, with all respect you are useless with hydraulics. Electronics and Biasi's are your forte, nowt else. No-one in their right mind would have you to install a boiler if it will take 3 days.
Do you ever fit rads? Cylinders? No, because if you did you would have an opinion on how they need to be done. To be honest Tony, you do boilers with electonics. You do it well(ish). You read about plumbing (D-Halisham is better) and try to use google as your friend.
Raden (as you often invite him to dinner & vise versa) is the man you turn to for advise.
Tony, with all respect you are useless with hydraulics. Electronics and Biasi's are your forte, nowt else. No-one in their right mind would have you to install a boiler if it will take 3 days.
Do you ever fit rads? Cylinders? No, because if you did you would have an opinion on how they need to be done. To be honest Tony, you do boilers with electonics. You do it well(ish). You read about plumbing (D-Halisham is better) and try to use google as your friend.
Raden (as you often invite him to dinner & vise versa) is the man you turn to for advise.
I have to disagree with most of the above posting.
When I see installations, most have significant things wrong with them if you include making future maintenance easy.
Although I specialise in boiler repairs, I can also do very good installations and I can also do plumbing, tiling and brickwork. I take my time, do things properly, use the correct materials and chemical treatments AND ensure they are easy to maintain or repair. I dont need to use short cuts, I take as long as it takes.
In this case, the boiler installer failed to identify the likelyhood of air problems in loft pipework.
That in itself is not very serious as the cost of correction is only about £130 based on four AAVs and two hours work, compared with perhaps £750 for the boiler installation cost. ( Surprised the OP done not tell us where he is and what he was charged for the boiler installation ).
My oldest customer was 93, but generally with anyone over 70, I ask for a son or daughter to become involved so that no one can ever accuse me of taking advantage of them. Many cowboys love old people because they are so easy to overcharge.
Tony
When I see installations, most have significant things wrong with them if you include making future maintenance easy.
Although I specialise in boiler repairs, I can also do very good installations and I can also do plumbing, tiling and brickwork. I take my time, do things properly, use the correct materials and chemical treatments AND ensure they are easy to maintain or repair. I dont need to use short cuts, I take as long as it takes.
In this case, the boiler installer failed to identify the likelyhood of air problems in loft pipework.
That in itself is not very serious as the cost of correction is only about £130 based on four AAVs and two hours work, compared with perhaps £750 for the boiler installation cost. ( Surprised the OP done not tell us where he is and what he was charged for the boiler installation ).
My oldest customer was 93, but generally with anyone over 70, I ask for a son or daughter to become involved so that no one can ever accuse me of taking advantage of them. Many cowboys love old people because they are so easy to overcharge.
Tony
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post a pic or is it bullshit?
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namsag
Its not that long ago Agile was on here asking how to fit a kitchen sink . Would i trust someone to fit my central heating that could not even fit a sink .Dont think so
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