F.cking Xmas Tree Lights!!!

[Alarm]

Terribly sorry, bought it before everyone went green
Tell you what i`ll burn it!
Or just keep using it and hope my children will too?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Even if you don't burn it "when you've finished with it", do you know of any 'normal' way of getting rid of it (other than sealing it up in an airtight container for evermore!) which won't result in CO2 and/or methane being released into the atmosphere?- I certainly don't.

I guess they could be burned as fuel, in which case they'd just be displacing another carbon source, and be neutral.

Hadn't thought about methane - if anaerobic decomposition can be avoided you won't get that though, will you?

http://www.snowcrestchristmastrees.com/Environmental.html

The answer, surely, is to us a live tree, which can then be planted outside and carry on using up CO2 for the rest of its natural life?

When I was a child my parents did that for many years.

 

[DeltaT2]

Oh no I did think through my reply to the self-righteous BAS.

Self-righteous?

You are completely deranged.

You "thought through" your reply? Impossible - given what you said you are clearly incapable of any mental processes that could even vaguely resemble thought.

I wrote "You need to realise that getting new lights will not be as expensive as getting a new wife was", and that means that I have an exaggerated opinion of my own virtuousness?



Do us all a favour and just go away, will you?

You're commonly known as an rsole.

 

[toasty]

When my daughter was born we bought two sets of 20 series wired fairy lights for her bedroom.

The usual type 20 x 12v bulbs in series. However as we planned to use them regularly I wired the two sets in series to prolong their life.

They are on every day for an hour or so before bed and the same in the morning. Emily is 7 years old now (and so therefore are the lights)

So far, I've not had to change a bulb, and the lights aren't noticably dim. If I had similar christmas tree lights I'd do the same, but I've gone RGB LED these days (GE Color Effects - http://yourmiss.us/coloreffects )

 

[ban-all-sheds]

You're commonly known as an rsole.

Come on then - give us all a laugh.

Have a go at providing an intelligent and reasoned explanantion of why me writing "You need to realise that getting new lights will not be as expensive as getting a new wife was", means that I have an exaggerated opinion of my own virtuousness.

 

[JohnW2]

I guess they could be burned as fuel, in which case they'd just be displacing another carbon source, and be neutral.

True - and, in fact, one of the green arguments you see is that they don't only displace other carbon sources, but also 'preserve' fossil fuels such as peat and coal which otherwise might be burned as fuel.

Hadn't thought about methane - if anaerobic decomposition can be avoided you won't get that though, will you?

Sure, you have a choice (between CO2 and methane). Aerobic decomposition (as in a well-aereated, fairly dry and frequently turned compost bin) will produce CO2, whereas anaerobic decomposition (as in landfill or a wet/poorly aereated/turned compost bin) will produce methane. CO2 is far more 'desirable', since methane has about 20 times the 'greenhouse' effect.

The answer, surely, is to us a live tree, which can then be planted outside and carry on using up CO2 for the rest of its natural life?

When I was a child my parents did that for many years.

The previous owners of our house did it. If they were to be believed (and it seems consistent with the observed facts), what you see here in my garden are allegedly their 1980, 1982, 1984 and 1986 Christmas trees (although I'm a bit doubtful about one, which is not a classic Christmas Tree species!). Since they are alternate years, I guess they kept them in pots for a second year, before planting!

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Kind Regards, John.

 

[DeltaT2]

You're commonly known as an rsole.

Come on then - give us all a laugh.

Have a go at providing an intelligent and reasoned explanantion of why me writing "You need to realise that getting new lights will not be as expensive as getting a new wife was", means that I have an exaggerated opinion of my own virtuousness.

You're a tw.t that knows nothing about me or my family life, in fact you know very little about anything - but claim to know everything!! If you don't like what I write then tough, don't read it..........So f.ck off!!!

 

[holmslaw]

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[ban-all-sheds]

You're a tw.t that knows nothing about me or my family life,

I never claimed to.

in fact you know very little about anything - but claim to know everything!!

Neither of those are true.

Do you have a specific comprehension problem with things you read, or are you just generally a bit thick?

If you don't like what I write then tough, don't read it..........So f.ck off!!!

I take it then that you are incapable of providing an intelligent and reasoned explanation of why me writing "You need to realise that getting new lights will not be as expensive as getting a new wife was", means that I have an exaggerated opinion of my own virtuousness.

Do you often write things which don't make sense even to you?

 

[17thman]

shall we all chill and read the below. there is a carbon footprint section in there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_tree

bless you all this season.

IMO the bit about red globes on the tree we use nowadays represent apples from the garden of eden and the bread of the "host" being represented by first wafers and then carboard and to boot the fact that the candles that represent jesus that have been replaced by Led's is a complete and compeeling history.

Peace to you all

 

[SimonH2]

I'm probably tempting fate here, but I've had a LV filament set of tree lights (3 x 80 in parallel/series) for so long I've forgotten how long - never had a problem. The lamps are the type which fail to a short so you never get a section going out.

Ditto. Though we did retire a set a few years ago that had been in use as long as I remember - so possibly 30 years or more. It had got to the point where it was literally falling apart - I recall many a time having to carefully push the MES lampholder out from it's plastic housing and resolder the single wire back in place (this set was a loop of single wire rather than a straight run with a return twisted as a pair with the light string).

Mind you, we ran them off reduced voltage. For a long time, I recall there were a couple of old indicator lights (no doubt rescued from some scrap control panel) wired in series, and for a lot of years now, and auto-transfor in a wooden box with several sockets on top for the lights.

Incidentally, has anybody else noticed this or is it just my bad luck? At midnight on January 5th, you switch off a string of lights that's worked for many hours - if not days - without a hitch and pack them away for next year. There was nothing wrong with them when you took them down and they've lain undisturbed on the highest shelf in the wardrobe ever since. So why is it that so many bulbs fail at first switch-on next Christmas?

But isn't that part of the whole ritual : The ritual untangling of the lights (you carefully coiled them but they still come out tangled. The ritual going down them all because half of them have inexplicably unscrewed themselves. Then the ritual process of going along with a spare fitting the spare in holder 1, then bulb one in holder 2, and so on until they all light.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_tree
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IMO the bit about red globes on the tree we use nowadays represent apples from the garden of eden and the bread of the "host" being represented by first wafers and then carboard and to boot the fact that the candles that represent jesus that have been replaced by Led's is a complete and compeeling history.

But it doesn't say why it's traditional to put a fairy on the Christmas Tree - but I happen to know why

One year, Santa had industrial relations problems with the elves, so in desperation he had to employ some fairies. Since they were unskilled, he gave them the simple task of popping down to Norway to collect the Christmas Trees. But they dillied and dallied, stopped to gossip, and didn't get back until boxing day.
When they arrived, Santa told them (in no uncertain terms) that they were too late - Christmas was over. "But what do we do with these trees ?" the fairies asked. Santa told the fairies where to put the trees, and that's why it's traditional to put a fairy on top of the Christmas Tree

 

[ban-all-sheds]

you carefully coiled them but they still come out tangled.

That's a facet of the related auto tangling of cables, a fact which is known but which is harder to explain than the Higgs boson, or even Jedward.

You can place a length of cable , perfectly straight, on the floor of an empty room, and when you return 10 minutes later it will have a knot in it.

When they arrived, Santa told them (in no uncertain terms) that they were too late - Christmas was over. "But what do we do with these trees ?" the fairies asked. Santa told the fairies where to put the trees, and that's why it's traditional to put a fairy on top of the Christmas Tree

It's hard to be a fairy,
Up where the tinsel glitters,
With a magic wand in one hand
And a fir tree up your knickers.

 

[DeltaT2]

Tis the season of peace and goodwill to all men.

Thanks mate for reminding me. Can we please make an exception for complete ****.rs like BAS??!!.............
Seasons Greetings to one & all.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Come on then - get into the spirit of goodwill by providing an intelligent and reasoned explanation of why me writing "You need to realise that getting new lights will not be as expensive as getting a new wife was", meant it was OK for you to say that I have an exaggerated opinion of my own virtuousness.

 

[dhutch]

...usual type 20 x 12v bulbs in series. However as we planned to use them regularly I wired the two sets in series to prolong their life....

Never gone that far, but the lights on our tree at home (also a 20 set, nice old screw type) have three extra bulbs from another set added on the end, which combined with the better bulb holder, is very reliable