Feeling electricity in water

[JohnW2]

Once the consumer unit is upgraded then any faults will cause the RCD to trip. One can still get a shock but what is hoped is the fault will trip the RCD before you touch it.

Indeed - as a general statement. However, the problem with many of the fairly esoteric scenarios we are contemplating in a discussion such as this one is that there may well be no path through which a fault current can flow (and hence trip an RCD, if it is a large enough current) until the body of a human being provides that current path. Whilst an RCD will then hopefully prevent any shock being fatal, the RCD would obviously not react to the tiny currents associated with 'tingles'. The upgrade of the OP's CU (and associated inspection) will certainly increase the overall safety of his installation, but whether it will do anything to elucidate (or eliminate) the cause of his "feeling electricity" is, I would say, far less certain.

Kind Regards, John

 

[Taylortwocities]

We got a plumber today and the earth underneath the bath was not connected anywhere

I really give up.

You come on to an ELECTRICIAN's forum and ask for advice.

Everybody says get an ELECTRICIAN to make some essential tests and to make sure it is safe.

and yet you get a PLUMBER in.

Do you have a disconnect in your common sense area???

What's the point, why didn't you get the window cleaner, or the postman to do the work…...


Oh wait. I have a great idea. Next week, there will be a bloke in a red suit on a sled coming to your house. Get him to have a look.

Good grief, how does the human race manage to survive…??

 

[JohnW2]

I really give up. ... You come on to an ELECTRICIAN's forum and ask for advice. ... Everybody says get an ELECTRICIAN to make some essential tests and to make sure it is safe. ...
and yet you get a PLUMBER in.

Agreed, up to a point. However, it seems that (in addition to the rather odd plumber's visit) the advice has probably been heeded:

We are going to have a full assessment today and a brand new fuse box fitted.

Kind Regards, John

 

[londoniese]

I had a similar issue a while ago. The householder had (himself) installed some of that carbon film UFH stuff without the required earthed metal shield/grid on top. Was induced voltage through the tiles, his wet body and to the water which was at earth(ish) potential.

No RCD on the UFH circuit either.
Condemmed the lot, needed ripping out and doing properly.

That's why I asked

Do you have electric underfloor heating in the bathroom?

and also

Electrical work? What was the work done?

Had no answer to those easy questions. I hope the OP has had an electrician in and is not now having to carry out CPR on his family.

No underheating and an unfinished extension built by cowboybuilders. They did electric work with poor safety and the bath was not earthed properly.

 

[JohnW2]

Had no answer to those easy questions. I hope the OP has had an electrician in and is not now having to carry out CPR on his family.

No underheating and an unfinished extension built by cowboybuilders. They did electric work with poor safety and the bath was not earthed properly.

As has been implied in some of the discussions, there may well not have been a need or requirement to earth the bath. Indeed, if you look around this forum, you will see that some people believe that to 'unnecessarily' earth a bath actually creates a danger which wouldn't otherwise be there. Your electrician will be able to advise you about this.

Did the electrician come and do the 'full assessment' yesterday? If so, did (s)he find any problems to explain what you had been experiencing?

Kind Regards, John

 

[londoniese]

Had no answer to those easy questions. I hope the OP has had an electrician in and is not now having to carry out CPR on his family.

No underheating and an unfinished extension built by cowboybuilders. They did electric work with poor safety and the bath was not earthed properly.

As has been implied in some of the discussions, there may well not have been a need or requirement to earth the bath. Indeed, if you look around this forum, you will see that some people believe that to 'unnecessarily' earth a bath actually creates a danger which wouldn't otherwise be there. Your electrician will be able to advise you about this.

Did the electrician come and do the 'full assessment' yesterday? If so, did (s)he find any problems to explain what you had been experiencing

He is now doing a full installation.fuse box and new cables and will test after

Kind Regards, John

 

[londoniese]

If there no earth to the ground and we didn't have any we would feel electricity in the water if there is any humidity touching a wire.
We had an extension built and the soil pipe is just outside the bathroom on top of extension.the cowboys did not seal it properly and when it was raining rain wad going inside the bathroom underneath the bath and leaking underneath the floor and touching pipes. The electrician has almost finished the installation.fuse box is done.hes doing the earth to the ground.

 

[RF Lighting]

He's not an electrician. His incompetence could have killed you.

A circuit must never be energised if it is not safe to do so, and having no earth to the installation is about as serious as it gets.

 

[londoniese]

He's not an electrician. His incompetence could have killed you.

A circuit must never be energised if it is not safe to do so, and having no earth to the installation is about as serious as it gets.

The guys who did the electricity were not electrician but the guy who came is on.he did the earth to the ground

 

[deadshort]

When the DNO come to move the meter they will check the earthing, if its not up to standard they may not reconnect your supply until it is.


Regards,

DS

 

[sparkwright]

When the DNO come to move the meter they will check the earthing, if its not up to standard they many not reconnect your supply until it is.


Regards,

DS

You reckon?

Not always the case, I've noticed.

 

[RF Lighting]

The DNO will have nothing to do with the installation. They will not connect it to your new supply regardless of what condition it's in.

 

[deadshort]

I have just had my meter moved and the DNO reconnected the tails to my CU and sealed the meter - no problems. They do check the earthing at the MET.

Regards,

DS

 

[JohnW2]

I have just had my meter moved and the DNO reconnected the tails to my CU and sealed the meter - no problems. They do check the earthing at the MET.

Do you have a TT installation?

Kind Regards, John.

 

[deadshort]

No.

Regards,

DS