They were all in the same boat

[JBR]

Just remember, you don't have to be White or British, to be racist. Racism is a double edged sword. It's just a shame the authorities don't apply the law equally.

And there's me thinking that only white people can be racist.

 

[RNReindeer]

Does that make him a racist?

You are a racist and then a voter, not t'uther way around.

So I will repeat the question. Is my Bangladeshi friend a racist because he will vote UKIP? Are you saying that only 'white' UKIP voters can be racist?

(He won't answer)

He already has answered!
Don't do a norcon and perpetually demonstrate your inability to grasp the facts.

Being a racist probably would influence your choice at election time, but being a UKIP supporter or any other party supporter does not mean the you are a racist. Suppose you just want out of EU, that's not a racist attitude. It's a choice.

Let me elucidate a little further, perhaps by using the smoker/non-smoker analogy:
Some people decide to change their views/attitudes. For some it's an epiphanic moment and they just change.
Others need time to adjust, but are determined and persist, although occasionally failing but trying again.
Others never do realise their errors and continue as normal.
Some do realise their poor behaviour/attitude but persist in some militant attitude decrying all who oppose them.
Other never were in the fist place.

Whereas with voting, you can vote one way this election but another way at the next election, your choice.
Some may suggest that you're gullible for believing the gospel of some politicians, but any way is your choice and you're entitled to it.

So in that case you accept that the fact that I have a Bangladeshi friend (who is also a customer) and the fact that I want out of Europe and the fact that I will be voting UKIP, does not make me a racist?

A simple yes or no would do nicely

Yes, you are a racist but not because you are a UKIP supporter.
You probably are a UKIP supporter because you are racist.
Cause and effect, not the other way round.

 

[RNReindeer]

Just remember, you don't have to be White or British, to be racist. Racism is a double edged sword. It's just a shame the authorities don't apply the law equally.

It's actually nothing to do with colour, race or nationality, it's to do with loss or perceived loss of advantage.
Thus indigenous people can be racist, but not migrants, (until or unless the migrants have the advantaged/privileged position in society, e.g. USA and Australia) because the indigenous people perceive the loss of advantage so resort to racism. Therefore the disadvantaged can't be racist.
But that's a discussion for another time.

 

[noseall]

So in that case you accept that the fact that I have a Bangladeshi friend (who is also a customer) and the fact that I want out of Europe and the fact that I will be voting UKIP, does not make me a racist?

A simple yes or no would do nicely

Are you saying that the three items above are in some way meant to determine whether you are a racist or not?

I eat sprouts, I have a friend that reads the Guardian and I own a Hybrid car. Am I a vegetarian?
A simple yes or no will do nicely.

 

[longdogs]

Just remember, you don't have to be White or British, to be racist. Racism is a double edged sword. It's just a shame the authorities don't apply the law equally.

It's actually nothing to do with colour, race or nationality, it's to do with loss or perceived loss of advantage.
Thus indigenous people can be racist, but not migrants, (until or unless the migrants have the advantaged/privileged position in society, e.g. USA and Australia) because the indigenous people perceive the loss of advantage so resort to racism. Therefore the disadvantaged can't be racist.
But that's a discussion for another time.

really sorry but that is utter b*ll*x

 

[longdogs]

So in that case you accept that the fact that I have a Bangladeshi friend (who is also a customer) and the fact that I want out of Europe and the fact that I will be voting UKIP, does not make me a racist?

A simple yes or no would do nicely

Are you saying that the three items above are in some way meant to determine whether you are a racist or not?

I eat sprouts, I have a friend that reads the Guardian and I own a Hybrid car. Am I a vegetarian?
A simple yes or no will do nicely.

Well on the same terms YES

 

[noseall]

Well on the same terms YES

So, if I throw a fourth one in, i.e. I just ate some pork...what then?

 

[JBR]

So in that case you accept that the fact that I have a Bangladeshi friend (who is also a customer) and the fact that I want out of Europe and the fact that I will be voting UKIP, does not make me a racist?

A simple yes or no would do nicely

Are you saying that the three items above are in some way meant to determine whether you are a racist or not?

I eat sprouts, I have a friend that reads the Guardian and I own a Hybrid car. Am I a vegetarian?
A simple yes or no will do nicely.

Do you have a beard and wear sandals?

(Actually, I am an almost vegetarian and have a beard, so there must be something in it.)

 

[longdogs]

Well on the same terms YES

So, if I throw a fourth one in, i.e. I just ate some pork...what then?

You are lying

 

[RNReindeer]

Just remember, you don't have to be White or British, to be racist. Racism is a double edged sword. It's just a shame the authorities don't apply the law equally.

It's actually nothing to do with colour, race or nationality, it's to do with loss or perceived loss of advantage.
Thus indigenous people can be racist, but not migrants, (until or unless the migrants have the advantaged/privileged position in society, e.g. USA and Australia) because the indigenous people perceive the loss of advantage so resort to racism. Therefore the disadvantaged can't be racist.
But that's a discussion for another time.

really sorry but that is utter b*ll*x

So you like to think. It makes it easier on your conscience and easier to excuse your behaviour.
But, from the eleven in the list in the quote (from the first page opened from google.) , possibly nine of them could be considered as loss of or maintaining advantage or privilege.

We are not sure of the exact cause of racism. There are many reasons. Social scientists speculate about the causes. A few things that may contribute to racism and racially motivated violence appear below:


Xenophobia, the fear of of people who are different. An element of xenophobia is present in racism. Deep fear can express itself in racially motivated violence.


A need to feel OK, to feel worthwhile. This can result in people wanting to feel superior to others.


Allows one group to socially, politically, and economically dominate other groups. An American Psychological Association article states racism serves to "rationalize the hierarchical domination of one racial or ethnic group over other group(s), and maintain psychological, social, and material advantages for the dominant group."


Racism is used by governments to excuse systemic and systematic oppression and human rights abuses.


Promotion of the idea that attempts to end discrimination and inequality are reverse discrimination and reverse racism.


Feeling protection of basic human rights for minority groups are "special rights."


Historic patterns of prejudice, discrimination, and racism. Colonialism, historic hostilities, and the slave trade contribute to modern racism.


Ignorance of other cultures, religions, and values.


Fear of sharing power with other groups of people.


Isolationist and protectionist foreign policies.


Laws and government policies aimed at preventing immigration of people of different cultures and religions.
http://www.stophate.us/racism/racismcause.html[/QUOTE]

But it really is a discussion for another time, 'cos I don't have the time right now.

 

[noseall]

Well on the same terms YES

So, if I throw a fourth one in, i.e. I just ate some pork...what then?

You are lying

Precisely.

You qualify as a RWR without even trying boyo.

 

[longdogs]

Yes, you are a racist but not because you are a UKIP supporter.
You probably are a UKIP supporter because you are racist.
Cause and effect, not the other way round.

Fair enough if that's your opinion. you don't know me and you are hell-bent on spreading your anti-racism beliefs.

I think you are of mixed race and don't know where you stand but that's just my opinion. I don't know you.

 

[longdogs]

Well on the same terms YES

So, if I throw a fourth one in, i.e. I just ate some pork...what then?

You are lying

Precisely.

You qualify as a RWR without even trying boyo.

sorry YOU are lying

 

[joe-90]

Yes, you are a racist but not because you are a UKIP supporter.
You probably are a UKIP supporter because you are racist.
Cause and effect, not the other way round.

Fair enough if that's your opinion. you don't know me and you are hell-bent on spreading your anti-racism beliefs.

I think you are of mixed race and don't know where you stand but that's just my opinion. I don't know you.

He's not of mixed race. I know someone that actually knew him years ago. He's Asian.

 

[longdogs]

It's actually nothing to do with colour, race or nationality, it's to do with loss or perceived loss of advantage.
Thus indigenous people can be racist, but not migrants, (until or unless the migrants have the advantaged/privileged position in society, e.g. USA and Australia) because the indigenous people perceive the loss of advantage so resort to racism. Therefore the disadvantaged can't be racist.

Sounds like a good get out clause to me. So the indigenous Americans started off as racist when the first white people arrived. But, when the white people eventually had the advantage, the indigenous people were no longer racists. They just loved the white man being there and they all got along fine.

If racism has nothing to with colour (which I actually agree with you on - colour is not a race) how can someone be sacked or arrested for insulting them by using their colour before an expletive?