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Have you really not seen any of the posts here which talk about, and show, some of the desperately unsafe stuff which comes out of China?
I'm sure he has - but, just as one does not see reports on the 6 o'clock News about all the passenger aircraft which have not crashed, all the well-know people who have not died or all the parts of the world that have not suffered catastrophies, nor does one see (or expect to see) posts here about the stuff which "comes out of China" which is perfectly safe, and quite possibly 'very good quality'. One simply cannot tar everything which originates in one of the largest countries in the world with the same brush.

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One simply cannot tar everything which originates in one of the largest countries in the world with the same brush.
Until they get their act together there is no other sane choice but to do exactly that.
 
One simply cannot tar everything which originates in one of the largest countries in the world with the same brush.
Until they get their act together there is no other sane choice but to do exactly that.
... but I'm sure that, if you looked around, there is some 'dangerous tat' which comes out of factories in the UK and elsewhere in Europe (and, in the case of UK manufacture, even less likely to get 'detected' because there is no import involved). Should we tar all these countries with that same brush as well? From what country can/could we safely/confidently buy electrical products?

Kind Regards, John
 
There's also a lot of good quality products made in China.

However, in the case of this chandelier....
 
I repeat, is it CE marked?
It would be interesting to know, if not only just in case it's not CE-marked. However, my understanding is that the products which most concern BAS would probably bear something resembling a CE mark, even if they shouldn't - so I'm not quite sure how one is meant to interpret the presence of such a mark!

Kind Regards, John
 
Well, if it isn't marked, then it's definitely illegal, if it is, then it might be!
Well, yes, that's what I said. I may be wrong, but I would suspect that not many companies would try to import a product into Europe if it did not bear something resembling a CE mark - whether it was legal or not!

Kind Regards, John
 
It would be nice to see the wiring in the top of the light though it might be all good.
 
Here is a photo of the base, there is a sticker which says CE on there (no idea if its real). The seller wasnt based in China as the light only took 2 days to arrive
 

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Here is a photo of the base, there is a sticker which says CE on there (no idea if its real).
It doesn't look entirely kosher

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But at that magnification/resolution it's hard to be absolutely sure.


The seller wasnt based in China as the light only took 2 days to arrive
Of course he is.

He says so himself.

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The reason the light arrived so quickly is not that the seller is UK based, it's because he rents warehouse space in Exeter, and has a stock of goods stashed there.

I doubt that there is a single person responsible for making, importing, or selling that light who is within the jurisdiction of the UK, and therefore is subject to any laws concerning safety etc.

Your light may be absolutely fine, or it may be dangerous to the extent that it could start a fire or electrocute someone. The problem is that there is no way you can tell, and there is a substantial body of evidence which shows that eBay and Amazon etc are awash with Chinese sellers who are selling the most appallingly dangerous tat.

And my point (which some people above understand full well, but are trying to ridicule for god knows what reasons) is that the risks of buying stuff from Chinese sellers is too high. Yes, that does tar all of them with the same brush, and yes, of course there are Chinese products which are absolutely fine, but as there are so many which are not and which could seriously harm you, and as there is not one single legal or regulatory obstacle which stops them from selling directly to consumers here, my advice is to not touch their goods with a bargepole. And it will remain the same until China itself does something to clean up its act.

The reason that so many Chinese made products are so much cheaper is not entirely due to excessive profits by European manufacturers and the use of cheap/child/slave labour in China.

Still - ATEOD it is your house, your family, your lives and your risk.
 

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