-
Looking for a smarter way to manage your heating this winter? We’ve been testing the new Aqara Radiator Thermostat W600 to see how quiet, accurate and easy it is to use around the home. Click here read our review.
In or out
- Thread starter gasbanni
- Start date
- Joined
- 10 May 2016
- Messages
- 575
- Reaction score
- 82
- Country
See.. You do have a sense of humour.
Everyone knows the Outists figure is a lie.
So perhaps this is just a rat leaving a sinking ship.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36485464
So perhaps this is just a rat leaving a sinking ship.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36485464
True, the £350M figure is playing fast and loose with the truth. But whenever the Remainers point out that the £350M figure is wrong, that's all they point out. They never go as far as to quote the real figure of £248M, because it is still just as eyewatering as £350M! So the Outists 'lie' is a moot point.
Last edited:
If majority decides to leave, as I am thinking along these lines now myself, I am still undecided, still weighing options, no rush, but if majority decides to say
goodbye to EU, this could give UK more power to bargain and amend certain rulings regarding uninvited migrant workers, in other words we won't take a flood of migrant workers from EU unless they had been asked to come over on work contract bases, and once the contract is over, they must go back and wait for another job available in UK, so we give our own people first priority, those who already live in Britain, work should be available for them. That makes more sense than all of EU's unemployed coming over seeking benefits and work making it so hard for our own to find vacancies.
goodbye to EU, this could give UK more power to bargain and amend certain rulings regarding uninvited migrant workers, in other words we won't take a flood of migrant workers from EU unless they had been asked to come over on work contract bases, and once the contract is over, they must go back and wait for another job available in UK, so we give our own people first priority, those who already live in Britain, work should be available for them. That makes more sense than all of EU's unemployed coming over seeking benefits and work making it so hard for our own to find vacancies.
Gerry
Your figure is also untrue.
To find out the real benefit (yes, benefit) of being in the EU you have to look at all the financial effects, which is not a soundbite and is too serious to put in a slogan.
The Outists base their campaign on a lie, which everyone knows it is, about financial effects, and by appealing to the anti-foreigner instincts of their supporters.
Funnily enough, the right-wing Tory outists have a different agenda, which is to sweep away the red-tape of workers rights, consumer protection, regulation and citizen rights, so that unconstrained big business can bring in more cheap labour and make more money in a race to the bottom.
Your figure is also untrue.
To find out the real benefit (yes, benefit) of being in the EU you have to look at all the financial effects, which is not a soundbite and is too serious to put in a slogan.
The Outists base their campaign on a lie, which everyone knows it is, about financial effects, and by appealing to the anti-foreigner instincts of their supporters.
Funnily enough, the right-wing Tory outists have a different agenda, which is to sweep away the red-tape of workers rights, consumer protection, regulation and citizen rights, so that unconstrained big business can bring in more cheap labour and make more money in a race to the bottom.
The figure is not untrue. That is how much we pay to the EU; £248M per week. That is the figure they should have painted on Boris' battle bus. How much we receive back in grants and other benefits is a separate issue (but it is less than we pay out, obviously).
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...23/does-the-eu-really-cost-the-uk-350m-a-week
No, I am doing no such analysis, so I am not looking at any equation. I'm just saying that is the cost figure. You're right, it's not £350M per week, it's £248M. Glad we got that sorted.
Now that we know the cost, we need to work out the benefits. Then we can do the analysis.
I'm not sure how me stating a numerical fact is anything like a fictional Boris?
In any case your analogy doesn't work since a mortgage is a loan that must be repaid. You can't cancel it.
I suggest instead: "I spend ten thousand pounds a month on my gym membership, so I should cancel it, and then I'd have an extra ten thousand a month to spend on my own gym equipment".
I come on here to learn new words !
That's not an unreasonable analogy.
Now that I've cancelled my £10,000 per month gym membership (Some gym! It must be massage parlours with extras thrown in for free, along with free drinks, food, and no limit on how long one stays, or how many times one visits, and one can bring one's friends for free!! Now I have more friends that I know what to do with! They're all after a free ride. No pun intended.
).I'll have to think where can I house my gym equipment? I'll have to buy a bigger house, that'll mean a bigger mortgage. Can I afford it? No! I'll have to leave the gym equipment in the back garden. But it'll only last a couple of months before it's rusted away and I'll have to keep buying new equipment every couple of months. OOps! I forgot about the maintenance contract! OOps I forgot about the neighbours sneaking over the fence to use my equipment when I wasn't looking. Now I'll need some security guards as well.
And I have to exercise in the rain!
Then when I have an accident, there's no-one there to help!
I knew I should have thought it through more thoroughly.
Last edited:
More like the membership fee for the Freemasons hoping to gain business advantages but never actually knowing how you would have done without spending so much on the fee or how you'll do if you leave.
Some manage without ever belonging.
Some manage without ever belonging.
