One of my posts has been deleted, and mods have referred me to forum rules, I cannot even remember what i wrote on it, but i am sure it was a fitting reply to an abuser. who questioned my suggestion and ridiculed the idea which was no dissimilar to madrab's idea. Yes when someone makes ill remarks at me I am entitled to hit back or do you suggest that I take it in and turn the other cheek? I am not Lord Jesus you know that.