People are ignorant of the way LED lighting operates and this is because the marketing industry is also ignorant and uses the wrong terminalogy.
No it is not, Bernard.
No.
It .
Is.
Not.
No matter how many times I have asked you, you have not once even
tried to explain how people would suddenly know how LED lighting operates, or what the little plastic bricks do inside if only the little plastic bricks supplying the lighting were "correctly" named.
Not once.
Because you know you can't.
One major supplier is selling 12 volt fixed voltage "electronic transformers" as LED drivers. LED Drivers control current to suit the LED elements. What they are selling is a voltage source or power supply.
Do they, or do they not, drive the LEDs?
Whether they drive them by providing them with a constant voltage or drive them by providing a constant current they are still providing the power to drive them.
The devices labeled as "electronic transformers" are power supplies that may be designed to provide a constant voltage. ( power supply ) or a constant current ( LED driver )
Indeed.
And I (and you) have lost count of the number of people we get here who do not know what the difference is between voltage and current, who don't know that voltage can only be measured between two points. They don't know what either of them are, and they would not know what the difference was between a constant voltage power supply and a constant voltage one.
99% of these will have a transformer inside them along with a variable number of other components. These components create a high frequency chopped supply to the primary of the transformer which allows for the transformer to be a very small item.
Yes, we all know that.
And we all also know that that would continue to be the case no matter what label is stuck on the outside of the enclosure. The name does not affect what is inside.
So we have two basic types of "electronic transformer" but both are labelled as "electronic transformer". The first type supplies a constant voltage and the secnd type supplies a constant current. Some of the constant current type are known as LED drivers as that is what they are designed for. to drive a constant current through an LED element. Most LED lamps have this current driver ( or something similar ) fitted inside the lamp. These lamps require a constant voltage supply, they do not need and probably will not work if supplied with a constant current from an "electronic transformer" has been sold as an LED driver. Using an LED driver to force a current through the lamps with internal LED driver may damage the lamps and / or the LED driver usedas its power source.
Indeed.
But none of that would change if the names on the enclosures were changed.
People who had no idea what any of it meant, or why it mattered, would not magically acquire that knowledge if the names on the enclosures were changed. Those who do know would find it trivial to discover what the device actually was.
And you
KNOW that - it is impossible for you not to know.
If someone goes into a restaurant, and there on the menu they see Chicken And Artichoke Pie, will they know that there are two types of artichoke?
They might, or they might not. If they do know, and if it matters to them, e.g. if they like one type but not the other then they will ask. If they do know but it doesn't matter to them because they like them both then they might not bother. But if they don't know then describing the dish as either Chicken And Globe Artichoke Pie or Chicken And Jerusalem Artichoke Pie won't be of any help to them - they still won't know.
If they have had one type before, and not known which type, and not liked it, then they won't order the pie no matter what it is called because all they know is "I don't like artichokes".
If they have had one type before, and not known which type, and did like it, then they might order the pie because they know "I like artichokes". And they might then discover the hard way that there are different types and they don't like all of them. But identifying them on the menu would have made no difference.
You are just like Winston - the idea that some things are "incorrectly" named sends you into such a frenzied outrage that you are both prepared to lie in order make out that you are right and the entire world is wrong.
Winston tries to deny that they even exist, and you try to claim that the problems of incompatibility, poor quality RFI suppression, incorrect installation etc are due to the "incorrect" names.
But you are both making claims which you know are false.
