Pryonix installation difficulty?

[Europlex]

Most that answer are in the alarm trade as installation or service/mtce. engineers.

I think the Pyronix charge is for the first year only, but don't take that as gospel.

Texecom, MY thoughts only. A company selling cheap from what I can see, DiY/professional stuff to all and sundry.

I've only come across one Texecom panel during my work for one of the national companies and that was to remove and replace.

Don't forget that a DiY system in normal circumstances will not adhere to Insurance requirements.

 

[Nintendofan]

.I've only come across one Texecom panel during my work for one of the national companies and that was to remove and replace.

I'm a key holder for 3 commercial buildings at work with police response and those are all Texecom systems but with DuelCom as the communicators.

 

[dannysmith43]

Thanks for the advice guys.
When I spoke to Map Security today, they said the Pyronix system is their best seller, over 50 kits per week or month (my memory is terrible) so it certainly seems like a trade favourite. I can live with £30 something a year to be honest, I really like being able to check in and the notifications.
I've got a week or so to decide but appreciate everyone's input. I understand that a self-install is probably not going to satisfy am insurer, I just wanted something within my budget (£500 or so) that's reliable enough for me to trust when the family is home mainly.

 

[GalaxyGuy]

Don't go for anything with a WiFi communicator. It just adds another point of failure into the comm's path.

I would recommend Honeywell Galaxy or Texecom. Don't lock yourself into a yearly fee just to connect to your own system. That fee can and will be increased at some point. It's fair enough paying for the monitoring service, but you shouldn't have to be tied to their online platform to remote control your system.

 

[dannysmith43]

Don't go for anything with a WiFi communicator. It just adds another point of failure into the comm's path.

I would recommend Honeywell Galaxy or Texecom. Don't lock yourself into a yearly fee just to connect to your own system. That fee can and will be increased at some point. It's fair enough paying for the monitoring service, but you shouldn't have to be tied to their online platform to remote control your system.

Hi, thanks for your input...
Is this the sort of kit your talking about?
https://www.superlecdirect.com/p-su...iRSjMpkXZLGDn7Hd2zzPXGFFUJ6YfRxTumRoCs7Dw_wcB

I like that the control panel is separate from the keypad but I looked up the remote connection / viewing app and it doesn't seem to get a good rap with reviewers, apparently the "Honeywell" version of the cloud based remote connection software can be "iffy". To be honest, I'd rather forgo the "cloud" stuff, I VPN to home so would prefer a system I can talk direct to, rather than check-in via a cloud platform.

Thanks

 

[GalaxyGuy]

No... That's the Le Sucre (French design) and not the Galaxy range. The Galaxy range is Flex, Dimension, Classic (older) or G2 and they are solid panels. The Honeywell app for those panels is fine, but I also wrote another virtual keypad app for selfmon self monitoring as an alternative that also works with the G2 range.

This is the Galaxy Flex, but the whole range is available at securitywarehouse and other online security retailers.
https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk...x20-pnl-small-boxmk7-proxethernet-p-4917.html

You can also have both the GSM module and IP module fitted inside the Flex panel. The panel is hybrid, so can have a wireless module fitted for wireless sensors.

 

[dannysmith43]

No... That's the Le Sucre (French design) and not the Galaxy range. The Galaxy range is Flex, Dimension, Classic (older) or G2 and they are solid panels. The Honeywell app for those panels is fine, but I also wrote another virtual keypad app for selfmon self monitoring as an alternative that also works with the G2 range.

This is the Galaxy Flex, but the whole range is available at securitywarehouse and other online security retailers.
https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk...x20-pnl-small-boxmk7-proxethernet-p-4917.html

You can also have both the GSM module and IP module fitted inside the Flex panel. The panel is hybrid, so can have a wireless module fitted for wireless sensors.

Gotcha! I like the fact that I could put the control box in the loft, connect it to my UPS and ethernet and have the control panel downstairs. That would make my life much easier
Is the installation relatively simple? compared the likes of the Pyronix and Texecoms?

Thanks

 

[Nintendofan]

Gotcha! I like the fact that I could put the control box in the loft, connect it to my UPS and ethernet and have the control panel downstairs. That would make my life much easier
Is the installation relatively simple? compared the likes of the Pyronix and Texecoms?

Why would you connect an alarm to a UPS, you'll be connecting a battery in the alarm panel anyway and depending on the alarm you choose will be monitored anyway. Also the control panel in the loft with a wireless system may not be the best idea depending on the size and construction of the house, a central location is normally better.

 

[dannysmith43]

Why would you connect an alarm to a UPS, you'll be connecting a battery in the alarm panel anyway and depending on the alarm you choose will be monitored anyway. Also the control panel in the loft with a wireless system may not be the best idea depending on the size and construction of the house, a central location is normally better.

Good point, although my 3 bed house is pretty small, maybe the under stairs cupboard would be better...the keypad is wireless for this right? It kind of takes the headache out of where to place it, without running cables in plain sight.

 

[Nintendofan]

Good point, although my 3 bed house is pretty small, maybe the under stairs cupboard would be better...the keypad is wireless for this right? It kind of takes the headache out of where to place it, without running cables in plain sight.

lots of modern houses are now built with foil backed plaster boards that kills wifi signals, a mesh type system (i.e Texecom) would overcome poor wifi reception as each as each device doesn't have to connect directly back to the panel.

I don't think there's many systems with a wireless keypad either but I'm sure someone else could confirm.

 

[dannysmith43]

lots of modern houses are now built with foil backed plaster boards that kills wifi signals, a mesh type system (i.e Texecom) would overcome poor wifi reception as each as each device doesn't have to connect directly back to the panel.

I don't think there's many systems with a wireless keypad either but I'm sure someone else could confirm.

My house was built in the 70s but it's worth considering the placement to be more central. The only place I can put a wired keypad is in the hallway directly under the RCD box, as I can get a fused spur from there. I guess if the panel has a backup battery, I don't need to worry about a potential burglar turning off the power as soon as they walk in.

 

[Nintendofan]

My house was built in the 70s but it's worth considering the placement to be more central. The only place I can put a wired keypad is in the hallway directly under the RCD box, as I can get a fused spur from there. I guess if the panel has a backup battery, I don't need to worry about a potential burglar turning off the power as soon as they walk in.

fair enough, although your first message did say you are moving into a new property.

I think you'd be better reading as many instruction manuals as you can before you purchase as I'm not sure where you get the idea that a wired keypad needs a direct mains power supply. The main panel would have the mains supplied to it and then normally 4 core's would wire the keypad from the panel/expander etc.

 

[dannysmith43]

fair enough, although your first message did say you are moving into a new property.

I think you'd be better reading as many instruction manuals as you can before you purchase as I'm not sure where you get the idea that a wired keypad needs a direct mains power supply. The main panel would have the mains supplied to it and then normally 4 core's would wire the keypad from the panel/expander etc.

Yes sorry, i can see the confusion, I meant just moving house, as in the property is new to me. I thought the Pyronix enforcer keypad unit was all part of the main panel. I see with some models, like the Honeywell that they are seperate.
In the house I'm moving into, there is no power/sockets on the hallway, ideally where i want the keypad. The RCD unit is in the hallway, so i can pull power from there to the keypad / control until.

 

[steveo44]

Danny if you can hardware your devices go for the Pyronix Euro 46 App panel with Lan card. Will cost approx £220. The Pyronix App is excellent. First 12 months are free and then £36 per year.

 

[markyuk]

Where from not seen one at the price. I have been looking for ages and decided on this panel but with GPRS module rather than LAN as at least you can have SMS i case the internet goes down.
Have you had much experience with the panel. ?

Thanks

Mark