I've just realised you said "homeowner".
What part do the council play in all this? Do they own the lease of the building?
What part do the council play in all this? Do they own the lease of the building?
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Im not far, if you want to hire a pipevice let me know, I would want a deposit though , but barely F*** all for the loan, same applies for certain others on here if they need one.
HSS also hire them out.
HSS also hire them out.
Yes, only 5 of the 20 flats are private owners and the rest are council tenants.
So the council are effectively the management company.
Thanks, I will bear that in mind as I will definitely need one after seeing what my vice did to the conduit.
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Oh, just noticed what you done, bit late now but next time get some wood cut a V shape in each, then clamp the pipe between the 2 peices of wood in a vice
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I can see your tails disappear into the wall. Presumably going to the magic locked cupboard.
Which makes it a bit awkward for BG to isolate to fit the isolator.
Which makes it a bit awkward for BG to isolate to fit the isolator.
The incomers do. But the consumer tails are now flapping in the breeze from the meter to CU.
I suspect the butcher just pulled the old tails from the meter live.
Yes he did and besides nearly setting my flat alight with the sparks flames coming out of his dodgy extension lead he replaced them with he almost blew that fuse.
Now considering I work from home self employed and the amount of time it would take to get the council to replace it, that would cost me a lot.
I can organise them to come and do it but getting them to go and get the key from somewhere else a few miles away first and then take it back after the job seems a bit ridiculous.
When I asked before if I could collect the key they said it had to be the electrician and they would need to show their company badge/ID to be able to get it.
So for me it obviously will put the price up quite a bit because of wasted time, for a job that is relatively quick and easy to do.
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If you're going to work live, consider how to do it safely.
First, check that there's no reasonable way to isolate, as red zone workbg is a last resort
If not, make sure you have the right PPE. Watching the dno do it with our cutout that would be 1kv gloves.
Make sure there's no earthed metal around as it's possible to drop the exposed live conductor on it. Any that's there eg water pipe, gas pipe, consumer unit, needs isolating from earth or insulating.
Good luck.
First, check that there's no reasonable way to isolate, as red zone workbg is a last resort
If not, make sure you have the right PPE. Watching the dno do it with our cutout that would be 1kv gloves.
Make sure there's no earthed metal around as it's possible to drop the exposed live conductor on it. Any that's there eg water pipe, gas pipe, consumer unit, needs isolating from earth or insulating.
Good luck.
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Never heard anything quite so daft.
Apart from the time I got sent to a no power in a flat. The meter room was similarly locked and the flat's RCD had tripped. It was in the meter room and the key was not available. That's the only time I have seen that scenario and the key was given to all residents after that fiasco.
Apart from the time I got sent to a no power in a flat. The meter room was similarly locked and the flat's RCD had tripped. It was in the meter room and the key was not available. That's the only time I have seen that scenario and the key was given to all residents after that fiasco.
It it even 'allowed' for the residents or occupiers of a building not to have access to a means of fully isolating the electrical installation in the event of an 'emergency'?
Should someone, or even just property, come to harm as a result of such an inability to isolate the electrical installation, I don't imagine that a Court would be very sympathetic to whoever was holding the 'magic key'!
Kind Regards, John
They have no phone number you can ring to discuss it as I have tried ringing several departments and they say I have to email which can be from 2 to 10 days response time and then its to ask you to send another email with some extra info they already got.
The stupid thing is up to 3 days before the guy came to do the CU, it had no lock on it and the door was flapping about open so I didn't think I would have a problem making it safe for him, not that he seemed to care anyway.
I think it had a plastic clasp or something before as it had obviously been broken off for someone to get access to it and who can blame them.
To be honest I think I should have my own key to access it as a homeowner as it is really a ridiculous situation.
They are trying to be health and safety conscious but in reality most likely putting people more at risk.
- Looking at the seals on it, that might belong to the Electric board and i would have thought the council should not lock it with there padlock.
It may be a old style FB padlock, which the Fire brigade as well as the Electric board can access, though they would likely just cut it offf in an emergency.
Inside its likely a Ryefield board with 100 amp fuse carriers
Does the padlock have FB stamped on it, though do not condone you fiddling inside.
- Looking at the seals on it, that might belong to the Electric board and i would have thought the council should not lock it with there padlock.
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