Building a porch?

[Ian H]

I want to replace an existing porch with a slightly bigger less rotten one. I'm thinking 3mtrs wide, 1mtr deep and 3mtrs high, a bit like this:

The left will have a full return in brick and the right a return in glass.

Where do I begin? Can I just build it or do I need some formal permission?

Would the foundation be 1000deep x 600mm, the ground is heavy clay.
Would the brick bit need a cavity?

This is what is there at the minute and I want to extend it to the left to be centred under the small top window

 

[Footsoldier888]

Well it begins at the planning portal - calculating the volume and it's relationship to the street frontage.

I am finding it difficult to relate your plan to the photograph, a pic showing the whole frontage would be helpful.

Do you mean 2m wide? Your current one is about 1.75m I think.

 

[Ian H]

The garage door is being bricked up next week so it's going to look different. The one there now is 2.25m and I measured the new one and reckon it wants to be 2.66m ish.

I think that means I can come out 1.13m to make it 3sq/mtrs footprint.

The reason for going bigger is to centre it under that top window and give space for coats to the left.

 

[Notch7]

I think the door is a bit narrow

 

[Ian H]

I think the door is a bit narrow

Blame the architect for that!!!!

 

[TicTac]

You had a porch there beforehand, so as long as it's no bigger than the original was, there shouldn't be an issue. What's wrong with the existing foundations.

I'd be inclined to put glass in both sides, otherwise the wall hides anyone trying to get in the garage etc.

 

[pilsbury]

Glad to see you've kept the same architect. I can't comment on the permitted/planning side of things but will make my own observations on aesthetics.... I have a problem with symmetry - It has plagued me through my build. Things have to be symmetrical or it bugs the hell out of me! So your pitched roof apex has to go to the mid point of the window above- but then your current front door is not central.... having glass one side and brick the other would warp my melon.

Unless you lost the current side lights and moved the door central.

 

[John D v2.0]

think that means I can come out 1.13m to make it 3sq/mtrs footprint.

I can to check so don't quote me, but I'm half sure that's internal floor not footprint

EDIT actually not, the internal dimension is only used for building regs purposes not for planning!

 

[Ian H]

I have a problem with symmetry - It has plagued me through my build. Things have to be symmetrical or it bugs the hell out of me! So your pitched roof apex has to go to the mid point of the window above- but then your current front door is not central.... having glass one side and brick the other would warp my melon.

Unless you lost the current side lights and moved the door central.

The porch should make the house look symmetrical from the street and I reckon once in the porch with the cupboard to the left the old front door will seem a bit central.

We will see, we are moving in on Friday

 

[pilsbury]

We will see, we are moving in on Friday

Didn’t realise you weren’t living there.

 

[Ian H]

No, i've had it for 2 years and not finished it yet

 

[pilsbury]

One of those 2 home folks eegh? No wonder there’s a housing shortage. If I’d have know I’d have come up and invoked squatters rights! And nicked your materials!

 

[Ian H]

One of those 2 home folks eegh? No wonder there’s a housing shortage. If I’d have know I’d have come up and invoked squatters rights! And nicked your materials!

You should have, you could have built it for me before you started on yours!!

 

[pilsbury]

The World only deserves one of my creations.

 

[Footsoldier888]

Ian are you quite sure a 3m wide by 1m depth is in proportion??? 1m sounds a bit skinny to me for such a wide porch. Also is it in keeping with your roof?

The thing with symmetry is it is a neo classical element. It is all well and good on a bath terrace but in more modern buildings can look dull and even boring. Offsetting can look quirky and vibrant! Like Arts and Crafts houses are asymmetrical yet very well liked.

I am just saying that without knowing the relationship between this porch, your house and the other houses, it is impossible to know if it will work or not.

Obviously ignore this if you have your heart set on this, I am just thinking about how it might affect the value.