Remainers go on tell us the answer to Boris questions

SirGalahad · 5 Mar 2019

Fair enough. Then what made you vote to leave? If it wasn't the costs and benefits.

Mottie · 5 Mar 2019

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/20-reasons-you-should-vote-to-leave-the-european-union/

Discuss. Politely if possible.

bernardgreen · 5 Mar 2019

It was the costs and restrictions that made me vote leave. Also the fact that while the UK generally obeys the rules that constrict commecrcial activity many othe countries in the EU turn a bind eye to companies in that country who break those EU rules

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

Do you think this claim by the Telegraph is true?

"2) We could decide who comes into our country

EU members must allow all EU citizens to enter their country and work without restrictions. The “right of free movement” has allowed hundreds of thousands of Europeans to live and work in Britain. "

If the truth was that under EU rules, a country can allow people to travel to work, or to seek work, for a three month period, and to send them home if they were still unemployed, or had become a drain on the public purse, and if the truth was that the UK government had decided not to bother, would you consider the Daily Telegraph to have lied?

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

Do you think it is significant the the Telegraph opens with an unsubstantiated and false claim from an anti-EU propaganda group, before showing a much lower, less impressive but imprecise claim?

Do you think it is significant the the Telegraph chooses to ignore the fact that the UK's MEPs and members of the council have votes and influence, and generally support the regulations the Telegraph is moaning about? Do you see any benefit in, for example, laws regarding Banking, Insurance, Tax-dodging and Product Safety to be aligned within the 28 nations of the EU, which wish to do business with each other?

"3) We could make our own laws again

Some British laws are passed and implemented because of decisions made at an EU level. Business For Britain, a pro-Leave group, reckons 65 per cent of new British laws are made in Brussels. The House of Commons Library says that between 1993 and 2014, a total of 231 Acts of Parliament were passed because of EU membership, 24 per cent of the total. In 2010, the UK government estimated that about 50 per cent of UK legislation with “significant economic impact” originates from EU legislation."

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

Does the Telegraph listen to anybody? Is it forced to?

"6) We wouldn’t have to listen to lots of European presidents"

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

"8) We could have proper vacuum cleaners"

Do you really believe that a noisy vacuum cleaner that uses lots of electricity keeps a house cleaner than a more efficient one?

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

"9) We wouldn’t have to worry about Turkey"

We don't have to worry about Turkey. It does not qualify for membership. If the UK remained an EU member, it would have the power to veto membership. So can any of the remaining EU27.

This is quite simply "Project Fear of Foreigners" stirred up by anti-EU campaigners to heat the blood of Xenophobes.

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

14) We could have blue passports again

What complete nonsense.

The UK, or any other country, can have passports in whatever colour it wants.

The Telegraph demeans itself by publishing such made-up lies on a matter of negligible importance.

Sandy, anti-Europeans are willing to believe such nonsense.

And the Telegraph thinks it is worth including as a reason to vote to leave!

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

"17) It would be easier to get rid of fridges"

The Telegraph wants old fridges to be crushed and thrown into landfill.

And this appeals to Quitters?

SirGalahad · 5 Mar 2019

Lol. That's full of inaccuracies and I should say I am surprised but it's the Telegraph.

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

"18) No more stupid recycling bins"

Hurrah! Bring back landfill and incinerators!

The Telegraph is mad.

JohnD · 5 Mar 2019

20) Finally, we could have proper lightbulbs again

Anyone barmy enough to enjoy wasting energy can do it if they really want to.

What sort of Brexers lap up this nonsense?

SirGalahad · 5 Mar 2019

The costs have benefits like I believe 42 FTA. What restrictions are these? The ones on commercial activity.

You have example of these companies that break EU rules as the EU will fine companies like Google for data breaches.

bernardgreen · 5 Mar 2019

Who is wasting energy, Does the heat from an incandescent lamp escape from the house without contributing to the heating of the house ?

What happens if ( or maybe when ) the EU insist on domestic heating being all electric ( you cannot produce gas from re-newable energy sources {*} ). A few incandescent lamps will reduce the amount of heating needed.

And if ( or when ) the EU decide that the semi-toxic chemicals used in LED lamps ( and their manufacture ) are actuially really toxic and not sutiable for use in the EU then the EU countries will be de-lighted and tungsten+halogen lamps may become the prefered lamp.

{*} methane gas collected from land fill sites and some sewage processing plants can be used for generating electricity. Whether it is useable for supply to domestic boilers is very much in doubt.

Remainers go on tell us the answer to Boris questions

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