says fillyboy desperately trying to point score.
EU generosity
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That quick? It took us 61 years to pay back our war loans. Would you rather we hadn’t taken out those loans in the first place?
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This generosity doesn't extend from my local Pharmacy. £4.99 they wanted for this little bottle of sanitiser. Won't be using them again.
I may even give them a bad review.
I may even give them a bad review.
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£4.99
You're taking the p!ss, right?
Your sole reason for even starting this thread was to point - score.
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https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...s-show-no-planning-ventilators-event-pandemic
“We’ve just had in the UK a three-day exercise on flu, on a pandemic that killed a lot of people,” she told the World Innovation Summit for Health at the time. “It became clear that we could not cope with the excess bodies,” Davies said. One conclusion was that Britain, as Davies put it, faced the threat of “inadequate ventilation” in a future pandemic. She was referring to the need for ventilation machines, which keep oxygen pumping in patients critically ill with a respiratory disease such as coronavirus.
Despite the severe failings exposed by Exercise Cygnus, the government’s planning for a future pandemic did not change after December 2016 – at least not formally. The government’s roadmap for how to respond to a coronavirus-like pandemic has long been available online, and the three key documents – the 70-page “Influenza Pandemic Preparedness Strategy”, 78-page “Health and Social Care Influenza Pandemic Preparedness and Response” and 88-page “Pandemic Influenza Response Plan” – were published in 2011, 2012 and 2014 respectively. These plans were tested and failed, yet these documents were not rewritten or revised.
In short, 1 per cent of all cases can be expected to need ventilation, or between 400,000 and 530,000 people. Except the WHO report on China actually goes further, and says that a quarter of "severe" cases in China – the level below critical – also required ventilation. If this is also the case in the UK, these numbers would be four times higher.
the number of patients needing a ventilator would therefore range from 60,000 per week to more than 100,000.
The United Kingdom has 5,000 ventilators. Many are sure to already be in use, as ventilators are deployed with intensive care beds, and Britain’s intensive care beds run at 70 to 80 per cent capacity most months. Each ventilator will typically be required for at least ten days, making the gap between demand and supply more acute over time.
“We’ve just had in the UK a three-day exercise on flu, on a pandemic that killed a lot of people,” she told the World Innovation Summit for Health at the time. “It became clear that we could not cope with the excess bodies,” Davies said. One conclusion was that Britain, as Davies put it, faced the threat of “inadequate ventilation” in a future pandemic. She was referring to the need for ventilation machines, which keep oxygen pumping in patients critically ill with a respiratory disease such as coronavirus.
Despite the severe failings exposed by Exercise Cygnus, the government’s planning for a future pandemic did not change after December 2016 – at least not formally. The government’s roadmap for how to respond to a coronavirus-like pandemic has long been available online, and the three key documents – the 70-page “Influenza Pandemic Preparedness Strategy”, 78-page “Health and Social Care Influenza Pandemic Preparedness and Response” and 88-page “Pandemic Influenza Response Plan” – were published in 2011, 2012 and 2014 respectively. These plans were tested and failed, yet these documents were not rewritten or revised.
In short, 1 per cent of all cases can be expected to need ventilation, or between 400,000 and 530,000 people. Except the WHO report on China actually goes further, and says that a quarter of "severe" cases in China – the level below critical – also required ventilation. If this is also the case in the UK, these numbers would be four times higher.
the number of patients needing a ventilator would therefore range from 60,000 per week to more than 100,000.
The United Kingdom has 5,000 ventilators. Many are sure to already be in use, as ventilators are deployed with intensive care beds, and Britain’s intensive care beds run at 70 to 80 per cent capacity most months. Each ventilator will typically be required for at least ten days, making the gap between demand and supply more acute over time.
Wrong
You are upset by the truth
The next 12 months is going to be very upsetting for brexiteers, the inevitable failures will rack up one by one.
Thats what you get when 17million people didnt look beyond the soundbites, including me.
You've still not managed to provide any of this evidence you so often refer to.
Wrong.
You are stupid. You must be, given your complete ignorance of me repeatedly posting that I couldn't give a shiny shoite.
I suggest you get out more.
Wrong.
You are stupid. You must be, given your complete ignorance of me repeatedly posting that I couldn't give a shiny shoite.
I suggest you get out more.
You are angry, so dont lie and say you arent bothered, clearly you are.
You are clearly pro brexit, hence the insults aimed at me -you dont like it being pointed out what utter waste of time brexit is.
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Hes lost interest exactly at the point his arguments have been flattened.
I think hes exhausted from all the mental gymnastics.
Well off to work
Changing a boiler for a 70 plus year old today with no heating
Some of us cannot sit at home self isolating
Wasteing toilet roll s***ING themselves
Yep Transam will risk his life to help the elderly
Changing a boiler for a 70 plus year old today with no heating
Some of us cannot sit at home self isolating
Wasteing toilet roll s***ING themselves
Yep Transam will risk his life to help the elderly
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Well off to work
Changing a boiler for a 70 plus year old today with no heating
Some of us cannot sit at home self isolating
Wasteing toilet roll s***ING themselves
Yep Transam will risk his life to help the elderly
I'm with you Trans. I will risk my life for others...... And a few quid
I’m going over my allotment and starting to dig for victory. Or maybe my own grave!
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So... Lets explore this one.. and I'd like to read the source too...
The EU are proposing a pooling of ventilator machines across the EU so they can be deployed where they are needed most, generously including the UK in the Pool.
Great, we have a pool. Hands up who currently has more ventilators than demand. (UK puts its hands up). Hands up who has more demand than capacity... France, Spain and Italy put their hands up... Hand them over then, don't worry you'll get them back when you need them.. honest.
The EU are proposing a pooling of ventilator machines across the EU so they can be deployed where they are needed most, generously including the UK in the Pool.
Great, we have a pool. Hands up who currently has more ventilators than demand. (UK puts its hands up). Hands up who has more demand than capacity... France, Spain and Italy put their hands up... Hand them over then, don't worry you'll get them back when you need them.. honest.
