safe to go to 1 metre....or not?
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I don't think so personally. Was reading about the infection rate increasing in Germany - and they'd done so well.
I understand getting the economy up and running again, but we've no tracking system, no safety measures in place. Keeping outside and not too close keeps us safer. A meter away indoors in a pub/restaurant won't. A meter away is pretty much normal imo.
I understand getting the economy up and running again, but we've no tracking system, no safety measures in place. Keeping outside and not too close keeps us safer. A meter away indoors in a pub/restaurant won't. A meter away is pretty much normal imo.
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So the World Health Organisation are wrong? perhaps we should stop funding them.
I certainly wouldn’t be getting on a plane to Spain like those idiots yesterday. Mind you, seeing this in the Telegraph is just one reason why I believe we'll get a good Brexit deal: "The Mediterranean summer favourite initially refused to lift restrictions to Britons unless it secured a reciprocal arrangement for Spanish arrivals to the UK, but appears to have caved in under pressure to boost its battered tourism industry". Our 'European friends' appear to have put business above the well-being of their residents. 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/...o-spain-again-latest-advice-country-lockdown/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/...o-spain-again-latest-advice-country-lockdown/
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Source of the above? Its just that some media are saying SAGE people are saying the opposite.
apparently the WHO study was flawed
“The analysis of infection risk at 1 metre versus 2 metre should be treated with great caution,” said Prof David Spiegelhalter, a statistician at Cambridge University, who has participated in the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies . “I’m very suspicious of it.”
Prof Kevin McConway, an applied statistician at the Open University, went further and called the analysis inappropriate. He said the work “should not be used in arguments about how much greater the infection risk is at 1-metre minimum distance as opposed to 2 metres”.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...rt-flaws-in-who-study-on-two-metre-distancing
yes to some degree, however those people who are worried and can choose what to do, should have the information to do so
spikes in infections will cause serious delays to getting the economy back on track, Im not sure the argument 'we have to get back to work without taking precautions' will result in economic recovery any faster.
we need to follow the science -the real science not the govt doctored science
We have to find a way to get back to work.
One way or another we're going to have to learn to live with this virus, and the lockdown solution cannot continue for much longer.
I'm not suggesting that we don't take precautions, but the blanket 2m social distancing is not the solution indefinitely.
I agree, mass testing capacity and effective test and trace is required
I cant see what is wrong with a 1 metre rule for schools maybe 1 metre in community with masks.
Im not sure about pubs and restaurants -I wouldnt go to one at the moment anyway and for the business owners it will be a decision whether the reduced capacity means they would be operating below break even.
its a horrible time for some sectors.
how is your business going? -are your staff back full time and has your sales book been affected by CV19?
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The experts seem to be divided on this. There are as many saying there is no science preventing it as those saying there is. Labour don't seem to be arguing against it either. We need to be more worried about visitors not self isolating given the virus is on the increase when you look at it globally.
From talking to some Pharma people over the weekend, they are gearing up for both a second wave in the autumn and mass vaccination at the same time.
From talking to some Pharma people over the weekend, they are gearing up for both a second wave in the autumn and mass vaccination at the same time.
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If you want safe, stay at home!
More distance is obviously safer, but without a vaccination we have to make a decision - do we stop educating our children properly, and let most pubs, restaurants, theatres and sports grounds go out of business, or do we close the distance a bit and hope?
Thing is, the virus is under control, but still thousands of new cases in the UK every day. And we're midsummer now, not long and it will be autumn and we might have a horrid winter if it peaks then.
Maybe we should let it rip for a bit? Or maybe not ...
Tough choice. While you have the option, stay at home. I won't be rushing to the pub in July!
More distance is obviously safer, but without a vaccination we have to make a decision - do we stop educating our children properly, and let most pubs, restaurants, theatres and sports grounds go out of business, or do we close the distance a bit and hope?
Thing is, the virus is under control, but still thousands of new cases in the UK every day. And we're midsummer now, not long and it will be autumn and we might have a horrid winter if it peaks then.
Maybe we should let it rip for a bit? Or maybe not ...
Tough choice. While you have the option, stay at home. I won't be rushing to the pub in July!
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There aren't many nations that have more infected people than we do as a %. That means that any people coming from other nations, with a few exceptions, is likely to reduce the % of people in the UK who are infected.
On the other hand planes, trains and busses are perfect environments for catching Covid-19. So even if one person on a flight has it, the rest are at high risk. On the plus side they're all ticketed and should allow track and tracing. As NZ saw last week one infected person can result in 300 having to be isolated.
If we wait and open up slowly enough we avoid a large second wave of infections, if we go too fast we end up with a second peak the same size as the first, or bigger and a second general lockdown. Judging that fine line isn't going to be easy.
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