EU negotiations: will UK govt reach a deal or not

what do you think: Deal or No Deal


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Wagyu beef would have been cheaper, staying in the EU
DAMN! Damn, damn, damn, damn damn! :rolleyes:

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Here's a thought:
Michel Barnier has already hinted that UK planes would not be allowed to operate within EU without an agreement, especially on the lpf.
I assume that means they could fly in and out of EU (and of course around the world), but they couldn't operate within the EU.

Now if there's no agreement on lpf, and fishing, bearing in mind that UK is reliant on the air and sea bridge to EU (road, rail and air freight), air freight could be seriously affected.
What could/would the French fishermen do, if there's no deal and it affects their business? Of course, they've done it before, blockade the ports, especially the ferry ports, but also the ports would be closed to UK fishermen's catch.
Thus, air freight is seriously affected, and cross-channel ferry freight is cut-off. That would leave just some air freight and rail freight.
How long would it take to seriously damage the UK economy and reduce the free flow of food, etc to the UK?
What would happen to the lorry parks in UK?

We're currently seeing the effect of reduced ferry availability. Currently demand is outstripping supply on the cross-channel ferries. Ferry companies are severely reducing their capacity, even stopping some routes entirely.
Some are looking for government support during this Covid crisis.
 
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I pity the Europeans trying to talk sense with Brexer numbskulls.
 
If you are referring to me, I'm well established in France, working for a well established French organisation, teaching.
Good grief.

A word of advice for transam; your best friends are the ones who will tell you the truth. The one who will advise you that what you are doing is against your best interests, even though you don't like the advice.
Why don't you follow your own advice?
 
Good grief.
Well at least I'm not spreading ludicrous nonsense that racism can only occur between races.
As there is only one race, according to your criteria, racism can not exist.


Why don't you follow your own advice?
I don't consider xenophobes, Islamophobes and those spreading nonsense about racism, as my best friends.
If they're so bigoted it would immediately make me aware of their so called 'good advice'.
 
Well at least I'm not spreading ludicrous nonsense that racism can only occur between races.
That you call it ludicrous nonsense does not make it so. Logic not your strong point, is it?

As there is only one race, according to your criteria, racism can not exist.
Surely that must be 'according to your criteria' as you are the one stating it does not exist. You really must stop contradicting yourself.

For something that does not exist, the word does seem to be used an awful lot. I wonder what people mean.
What, then, do you call the discrimination of black people by white people in the U.S. that is filling the news?

By the way, what is the French, and many other languages', word for the noun 'breed'?

I don't consider xenophobes, Islamophobes and those spreading nonsense about racism, as my best friends.
Then they are not the one's from whom to accept (as you advised Transam). Missed the point again?

If they're so bigoted it would immediately make me aware of their so called 'good advice'.
Ah. I see - so the ones not giving good advice are likely not the ones giving good advice.

It must be difficult in your world.
 
Well at least I'm not spreading ludicrous nonsense that racism can only occur between races.
As there is only one race, according to your criteria, racism can not exist.
That you call it ludicrous nonsense does not make it so. Logic not your strong point, is it?
I've proven it to you several times, that there is only one race, but racism does exist. Therefore racism can and does occur between ethnicities, religions, cultures, etc.
Because you refuse to believe it, does not make it incorrect.
Logic not your strong point, is it?


Surely that must be 'according to your criteria' as you are the one stating it does not exist. You really must stop contradicting yourself.
You've entered the realm of fantasy now.
You are the one that claims racism can only exist between races.
As there is only one race, thus logically, racism cannot exist, according to your criteria.

For something that does not exist, the word does seem to be used an awful lot. I wonder what people mean.
What, then, do you call the discrimination of black people by white people in the U.S. that is filling the news?
So now you have backtracked from your original argument that racism can only exist between races, because it has been proven to you that there is only one race.
When will you backtrack from your ridiculous arguments that the classification of Semites are a specific modern race of people?

By the way, what is the French, and many other languages', word for the noun 'breed'?
Then they are not the one's from whom to accept (as you advised Transam). Missed the point again?
Ah. I see - so the ones not giving good advice are likely not the ones giving good advice.
It must be difficult in your world.
Irrelevant nonsense.
 
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After the numerous government U turns, sorry, tacking this way and that in the light of updated information, I can see the government doing some more U turns yet, sorry, tacking in the light of updated information.
Come end of October at the latest, I can see Covid being blamed for the need for some more U turns, this time, on Brexit.
 
This poll is currently showing 78% think No Deal is the likely outcome.
 
This poll is currently showing 78% think No Deal is the likely outcome.
I think a similar percentage of this forum thought that we should leave the EU. In the end, only 52% bothered to vote. 'twas enough though. ;)
 
I think a similar percentage of this forum thought that we should leave the EU. In the end, only 52% bothered to vote. 'twas enough though. ;)
One doesn't follow from the other, it probably means this forum is abnormally full of Brexiters compared to the rest of the UK.
 
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