NHS (administration) madness

[SirGalahad]

Perhaps if there weren't such an influx of illegals and leeches draining the NHS of time and resources, then it may be in a better position to provide a better service.

As it stands, no matter how much is pumped in by lawful tax payers, its being drained faster by people who have contributed nothing to it, but will be taking a lot from it.

Why do you keep pushing these lies?

The biggest users of the NHS are the elderly - over 55s. If you are so concerned about leaches - why don't you show the same opprobrium to the companies and people that are involved in the tax havens that were exposed in the Panama papers.

 

[durhamplumber]

The dermatology supplier to the NHS has given the Tories £20,000 in donations since 2016. It did not respond

Defo a smoking gun indicating privatisation....In cuckoo land maybe.

 

[ellal]

Defo a smoking gun indicating privatisation....In cuckoo land maybe.

"UK government 'using pandemic to transfer NHS duties to private sector'"

"Health secretary, Matt Hancock, has “accelerated” the dismantling of state healthcare and that the duty to keep the public safe was being “outsourced” to the private sector.
In recent weeks, ministers have used special powers to bypass normal tendering and award a string of contracts to private companies and management consultants without open competition."

And from previous years...

Seems you've been listening to the unicorns far too much!

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

Yesterday, my daughter received a letter from NHS saying an appointment had been made to see Dr ******* at a certain date/time next year. In the same envelope was another letter saying that appointment has been cancelled!!!!!

they saved on the cost of an envelope and your’e still moaning

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

My wife and I have both had letters from our surgery saying that we should get a flu vaccine as we are in the "high risk" category. We have to ring to make an appointment but we can only ring between 2 pm and 4 pm and when we ring, after going through the numpty choices, the phone goes dead. There is no other phone number and when I try to log on to the web site using my email address that I have used for umpteen years and which the surgery have had for at least the last 20 years it says it does not recognise my email address. There is no way to register online to access the surgery's website. The only contact details I have is an email address that I should use if don't want a flu jab. Dentists, don't get me on that hobby horse........ I have dying friends, who will now die early, because their cancer treatment has been cancelled and my sister in law, who has a heart complaint, was due to have an operation but it was cancelled because of this covid debacle. She is now too weak to have any operation and will, probably, die. My brother has MS and whilst I realise there is no cure for MS he cannot get any help. He is incontinent and his mind is going. My mother in law is in a home for the demented but my wife hasn't been allowed to go and see her for the last six months. Luckily we are in a position to pay for her care but it costs £3000 a month for that. I know that is cheap in comparison to some private care homes but even so...............I voted for this bunch of shisters that are running things and I sincerely wish I had just held my vote. Talk about America and the idiots that are running that show this lot over here couldn't run a p iss up in a brewery.

2 people i know have died with cancer , who may otherwise have lived longer and one mate left in agony because of a refused operation . empty hospitals. farce.

 

[IT Minion]

2 people i know have died with cancer , who may otherwise have lived longer and one mate left in agony because of a refused operation . empty hospitals. farce.

When you've got to space people out more and have staff shortages because of highly infectious and dangerous diseases then your throughput drops. The worst possible situation would be where you don't have enough testing capacity to identify who does and doesn't have it, meaning you have to treat everyone as possibly infectious. That drops the number of people you can treat massively. We're not that bad now as hospitals test everyone who is admitted, which at least allows you to reduce the protection for some patients.

Cancer is one of the most difficult ones to treat, the meds are vicious and often knacker your immune system so Covid-19 would be very very dangerous. It's hard to justify bringing people in for a treatment that might extend their lives but might also result in them dying much earlier thanks to Covid-19.

 

[conny]

YES

Exposed: 12 worrying links between Tories and private healthcare industry
EXCLUSIVE: In the battle to save our beloved National Heath Service, we expose the dirty dozen and prove once and for all that the Conservatives do not believe in the NHS
The dirty dozen
1. Dominic Cummings

Boris Johnson’s chief strategist until recently had previously worked at artificial intelligence start-up firm Babylon Health, which is endorsed by Health Secretary Matt Hancock. In August, shortly after Mr Johnson entered No10, Downing Street and the Department of Health announced a new £250million fund to promote the use of AI in the NHS, which Babylon welcomed although funding has not been allocated. The Tories did not respond.

2. Andrew Lansley

Ex-Health Secretary Lord Lansley is a director of his wife Sally’s public relations firm Low Associates, which reportedly represents pharmaceutical giants including P&G. The job was approved by the Advisory Committee on Business Appointments.

3. Matt Hancock
The Health Secretary received a £10,000 donation from Wol Kolade, the owner of Vanguard Healthcare, which provides mobile surgical theatres. Kolade, who has given £460,000 to the Tories and is a director of NHS Improvement, said the donation was “in a personal capacity”.

4. Steve Brine

The former Health Minister earns £800 a day on top of his MP salary working for Remedium Partners, which specialises in recruiting overseas doctors to short-staffed NHS trusts. The job was approved by the Advisory Committee on Business Appointments.

5. Lord O’Shaughnessy
6. Bill Morgan
The former special advisor to Lord Lansbury set up lobbying firm Incisive Health. Clients include Virgin Care, which has won £2billion of NHS contracts and sued six trusts.
Morgan sold his 33% stake for £13.6million earlier this year. Incisive did not respond


7. Baroness Blackwood
The Health Minister in charge of NHS innovation was recently on the board of Push Doctor, which offers video consultations to two million people “in partnership with the NHS”. It charges £30 for an online consultation. The Tories did not respond.

8. John Nash
The Tory peer and his wife have given £425,000 to the Tories including £21,000 to the former Health Secretary Andrew Lansley in 2009. At the time, Lord Nash was chairman of Care UK, which has earned £1billion from the NHS. He was not available for comment.
The former Health Minister is on boards of robotic surgery firm Intuitive, urine test firm Healthy.io and Portland Communications, which has a string of healthcare clients. He said he followed advice from the Advisory Committee on Business Appointments.

7. Baroness Blackwood
The Health Minister in charge of NHS innovation was recently on the board of Push Doctor, which offers video consultations to two million people “in partnership with the NHS”. It charges £30 for an online consultation. The Tories did not respond.

8. John Nash
The Tory peer and his wife have given £425,000 to the Tories including £21,000 to the former Health Secretary Andrew Lansley in 2009. At the time, Lord Nash was chairman of Care UK, which has earned £1billion from the NHS. He was not available for comment.

9. Crawford Healthcare
The dermatology supplier to the NHS has given the Tories £20,000 in donations since 2016. It did not respond

10. Mustafa Mohammed
The private health boss whose companies have earned millions from the NHS has donated £325,000 to the Tories. His company Genix Healthcare won a £7.3million NHS contract to provide dental services and training. Genix did not respond to us.

This list only 10, not 12, because you have double quoted 7 and 8 as I have highlighted.

 

[Trazor]

I have had wonderful service from the NHS, and I suspect the vast majority also.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Why do you keep pushing these lies?

Probably because he's realised that Brexit won't affect immigration, and he's so anti-immigrant, it's the only course left for him to spout his bigotry.

Come to think of it, he look a bit like Farage.

 

[Notch7]

Defo a smoking gun indicating privatisation....In cuckoo land maybe.

youve taken one example and taken it out of context....put them all together and you have a clear smoking gun

take the whole lot and you have a ton of Tory MPs all with their noses in the trough

and yes Matt Hancock has put out more private NHS contracts

The amount of the NHS budget going to private healthcare firms has reached unprecedented levels, despite the health secretary’s pledge to roll back outsourcing of patient care.

The Department of Health and Social Care handed a record total of £9.2bn last year to private providers such as Virgin Care and the Priory mental health group, its annual report shows.

 

[Notch7]

Matt Hancocks window cleaners brothers girlfriends sons classmate sat on the next table in Nando's in 1998 to the sister of the bloke that fitted the carpet in the NHS's boss's sisters back bedroom.

Yes Im sorry I missed out this one:

Between 2010 and 2017, prior to his appointment as health secretary, Matt Hancock accepted £32,000 in funding from Neil Record.

In a special report published today, investigative journalist Jonathan Gornall warns that the IEA is closer to power than it has been for decades - and may hold the key to No 10.

Public health experts say they are “deeply concerned” that policies designed to tackle childhood obesity, such as calorie labelling and advertising restrictions on unhealthy foods, could be put at risk under a new Tory leadership wedded to the IEA’s free-market, anti-regulation ideology.

The IEA has a long record of dismissing public health initiatives as “nanny-state” interventions,

 

[Notch7]

All cobblers.

Mind you, you've completely missed out the fact that Matt Hancocks window cleaners brothers girlfriends sons classmate sat on the next table in Nando's in 1998 to the sister of the bloke that fitted the carpet in the NHS's boss's sisters back bedroom.

Is this too distant connection for you?

No fewer than 25 serving Conservative MPs, including several leadership candidates, are connected to an organisation part-funded by the tobacco industry and responsible for a series of attacks on public health initiatives, reveals an investigation by The BMJ.

 

[Mottie]

Is this too distant connection for you?

No fewer than 25 serving Conservative MPs, including several leadership candidates, are connected to an organisation part-funded by the tobacco industry and responsible for a series of attacks on public health initiatives, reveals an investigation by The BMJ.

Well, they are allowed to work you know. What do you suggest - the night shift at McDonalds?

 

[Brigadier]

"Health secretary, Matt Hancock, has “accelerated” the dismantling of state healthcare and

and yes Matt Hancock has put out more private NHS contracts

Calm down ; Hand Cock is hardly Blofield.

I very much doubt he could find his own arris with both hands and a torch.

Clearly a wetter.

 

[fillyboy]

Calm down ; Hand Cock is hardly Blofield.

I very much doubt he could find his own arris with both hands and a torch.

Clearly a wetter.

I think Notchy is a bed wetter.