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On the beeb last night, there has been a concerted effort worldwide to observe wildlife and get an accurate picture of what's happening with the environment.

Very grim outlook. Watch it on iplayer if you didn't see it.
 
Yeah, saw some of it. Very interesting was the part about how there are an unknown number of undiscovered viruses lurking in remote places, but as humans expand into new territory, mostly for cattle farming, we become exposed. The next big one really could be one more slash and burn away ...
 
But voting for trading with far off lands instead of the one next door helps the environment. (y)
 
shocking how much land is used to grow food to feed cows so we can have an endless supply of burgers. All sad really.
I am sure like most people here, I remember as a kid meat being a treat, a Sunday roast, a very occasional burger in a Wimpy etc.
So many people eat it like we used to eat bread!
Those vegans and extinction rebellion guys really have a good point.
 
shocking how much land is used to grow food to feed cows so we can have an endless supply of burgers. All sad really.
I am sure like most people here, I remember as a kid meat being a treat, a Sunday roast, a very occasional burger in a Wimpy etc.
So many people eat it like we used to eat bread!
Those vegans and extinction rebellion guys really have a good point.

I think looking back we had meat or chicken at least 5 days of the week!
 
I think looking back we had meat or chicken at least 5 days of the week!

You lucky sod. The only meat we had was rotten meat that a rat had vomited out, and then had been trodden on by a dead horse before being fried with tractor oil for a month, and we only got that once every 12 years!

 
You lucky sod. The only meat we had was rotten meat that a rat had vomited out, and then had been trodden on by a dead horse before being fried with tractor oil for a month, and we only got that once every 12 years!


TBH I thought that was the norm. As a kid you only ever see the area you live in - there was no internet back then! So for me it was normal and looking back do I realise how comfortable we were.
 
But voting for trading with far off lands instead of the one next door helps the environment. (y)

Depends if the far-off lands:

- produce a better product, at an acceptable price
- do it with better care for the environment
- could do with our trade, to help them improve their own lot.

etc etc.
 
Yeah, saw some of it. Very interesting was the part about how there are an unknown number of undiscovered viruses lurking in remote places, but as humans expand into new territory, mostly for cattle farming, we become exposed. The next big one really could be one more slash and burn away ...

It is less "unknown viruses", and more viruses that are forced onto creatures (including ourselves), through habitat destruction / our global expansion, which then mutate.

Linky
 
Depends if the far-off lands:

- produce a better product, at an acceptable price
- do it with better care for the environment
- could do with our trade, to help them improve their own lot.

highly unlikley when right wing governments are tied up with climate change deniers.

Matthew Elliott: Tory top advisor, also has very close links to Koch foundations


Koch foundation
Koch Family Foundations have spent $145,555,197 directly financing 90 groups that have attacked climate change science and policy solutions, from 1997-2018

Matthew Elliott
Matt Elliott, a British lobbyist and consultant, and Sarah Elliott, a Trump-loving American who is the chair of Republicans Overseas—has been helping grow a network of influence in and around Britain as a way to cash in on the UK’s withdrawal from the European Union (stupidly-but-conveniently otherwise known as Brexit.) For them, this means seeking funding from the likes of Robert Mercer and the Koch brothers and then using that money to lobby for deregulation of environmental protections
 
shocking how much land is used to grow food to feed cows so we can have an endless supply of burgers. All sad really.
I am sure like most people here, I remember as a kid meat being a treat, a Sunday roast, a very occasional burger in a Wimpy etc.
So many people eat it like we used to eat bread!
Those vegans and extinction rebellion guys really have a good point.
What did your mum feed you with then?
We didn't have much money in the early years but mum cooked meat every day. It wasn't very good quality meat though imo. A typical dinner was boiled mince and gravy with new spuds and peas. :sick:
 
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