Better than a No Deal or not?

Poll : Better than a No Deal or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 56.3%
  • No

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 8 25.0%

  • Total voters
    32
Where the winning prize is a huge bucket of horse schitt

Best to come 2nd in that race
Why is that - do the second place runners get some kind of different prize then? Any prizes will be shared by all runners. You’ll thank us eventually. (y)
 
Nonsense!
The Review in four years time for the Trade Deal is merely to review if both parties are abiding by the Agreement.
The commission chief said that the future trade agreement included a provision to review whether both sides are abiding by the terms of the level playing field "after four years".
https://www.ft.com/content/34dd4cbe-33ef-32f8-9aa2-904339e46bf0
The other four-year review refers only to the NI Protocol.
At the end of the transition period the provisions of the Northern Ireland protocol will automatically enter into force. After four years, the UK must provide Northern Ireland with the opportunity to decide whether or not those provisions remain in place.
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/northern-ireland-protocol-consent-mechanism
Nonsense yer self himmy

What u know about it u could write on a postage stamp with a six inch brush :LOL:

Never read yer post either apart from one word :cool:
 
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Best deal? Now come on folks. The basis is dead simple to get to grips with. Free trade fine but break the rules and tariffs will be imposed.

More leaving the EU - maybe but given that all factions except that certain insane racist believe uk citizens will be poorer as a result who knows? Being out most certainly wont do much positive as far as the UK is concerned in the short term. That aspect is likely to be factual. EU - business as usual. Those that buy brand new BMW's etc still will. ;) China might flood the place with cars that have vaguely familiar names and look similar to what we currently have around. That's what free trade means. Prevent it and it isn't free trade.

The USA would love more to leave it as it is very definitely a problem for them.

I'm told by an MP that the financial sector has already taken steps to avoid any problems due to us being out. What - pass. Many countries would love to get that business. The drop in tax take from them could easily offset savings from being out.

ERG ? Likely to be a bunch of has beens now what ever they feel. Some have thought all along that the money that makes the world go round would insist on some sort of deal being reached. I mean the real money that makes things happen not the pittance that we own. Curiously an Ex Tory reckoned long ago that things would finish up as they have - a deal that hasn't been entirely sorted out really but can be said to be a deal with more dealing to come. Typical politics like our testing capability etc which isn't as announced and never gets to the numbers that have been mentioned. He is now a news paper editor - ;) wanted as such unlike Doris.
 
Brexit analysis:

Le Monde “The UK finds itself once again facing a question that was never resolved after 1945: its place in the world”

Der Spiegel “The UK might need Brexit to realise how small the bit part it will play on the world stage will really be”
 
So come on, be honest, when you go abroad to Europe you obviously have your EHIC in case you fall ill but....what do you do about insurance for delays, theft, burglary, missed flights, personal possessions or in the event that you have to be flown home on a stretcher in a private jet accompanied by a medical specialist for treatment in the UK etc etc? Do you and your family just chance it or do you have insurance that covers all those things but not the health element? If so, where do you get? Do tell.
 
So come on, be honest, when you go abroad to Europe you obviously have your EHIC in case you fall ill but....what do you do about insurance for delays, theft, burglary, missed flights, personal possessions or in the event that you have to be flown home on a stretcher in a private jet accompanied by a medical specialist for treatment in the UK etc etc? Do you and your family just chance it or do you have insurance that covers all those things but not the health element? If so, where do you get? Do tell.
Doh...

Of course we have multi trip insurance for those items :rolleyes:
But I am talking specifically about the benefits of EHIC, but just like any brexiteer you throw in red herrings...

For the same care that an individual of a particular EU/EEA country gets, the EHIC card does the same for citizens of 31 countries, soon to be 30.
And without a time limited stay with EHIC - you may not have noticed the 24 day limit on your original quote?
Which kind of exposes your lack of knowledge in this matter (y)

But maybe you should care about the EHIC card.
Because as always the devil is in the detail as I've just found out.
My partner's country is not participating in the EHIC card 'until expiry' scheme.
And the reason why?
The countries affiliated to the EU, but not members offered the UK a deal that was identical to the one we have until the end of the year in every single aspect.
Now you couldn't get a better deal than that.
But the UK turned them down and chose a worse option - for ideological reasons!

Borisconi:
“British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; to buy homes and to settle down,”

He forgot the 'only if you're rich enough' bit, or the expense/bureaucratic nightmares bit!
 
So Fishermen say they have been sold down the river and Bojo own words saying the deal doesn't help financial services.

We have a border in the Irish Sea.

We still have to align with EU regulations.
 
Well at least we can now have Tax Free Ports and Charter Cities so we can still bank the global elite and tax dodgers. I am not sure hoe that will trickle down to the coastal towns.
 
Why are Brexxers now so reluctant of owning Brexit - you won, you got it, it's yours, own it, enjoy it, stop shifting goal posts.

Seems there was greater euphoria over leaving on 31st Jan.
Enjoying it immensely...none of the dire predictions came true...can still have medical treatment,,no sky high tariffs,,free data roaming still....etc etc...read and weep JoanD and the rest of you.
 
Did they really say that?
Well at least some did

The fisherman’s verdict on Brexit: Boris Johnson sold us down the river – again

"For Jim Portus, who has represented Devon and Cornish fishing interests for 33 years, the Brexit trade deal offered a sobering lesson in broken promises.

Having volunteered to delay his retirement as chief executive of the South West Fish Producers Organisation to see the Brexit deal through, Portus questioned the wisdom of his decision on Saturday.

“I thought we were going to get a wonderful victory, but many of the promises that were made have not been delivered,” said the 66-year-old.

Not only had the sector secured the opportunity to fish far less than they had expected, Downing Street’s claims of safeguarding the sovereignty of the fishing industry – regaining control over UK waters was a central message of the leave campaign in 2016 – appeared wide of the mark.

“The deal means we’re still tied to the apron strings of the EU, we’re not an independent coastal state,” said Portus, whose organisation represents almost a third of the 300 or so large trawlers operating out of ports such as Newlyn in south-west Cornwall and Brixham, south Devon. “We should have been deciding the rules and regulations on how to manage those stocks so that we took control of access arrangements for other countries.”

On the other hand the rich will get richer on the back of largely uneducated leave voters (n)
 
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