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EU unhappy with astrazeneca
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I've done that a few times by mistake, I'm not allowed to order anything off Amazon now, 'she' has to do it.
Oh thanks for reminding me, I got a weeks prime last Sat for some coffee pods.
I'd better cancel
The EU says that AZ have lied about the form of contract they agreed. Sounded like they may publish it. Their main beef is that they contributed 300 million or maybe billion euro to it and aren't getting a proportional share. So a rather major contributor isn't happy. They also think some is going to countries that are paying more for some hence wanting to check what is actually going out of the EU. That currently is all they intend to do. They didn't mention any specific vaccine on that.
One thing for sure who's right or wrong will depend on which country or group you ask. Another thing that is certain is this sort of thing was bound to be a problem. The producers knew that they were going to have to produce way more than they could easily make and who knows when that will settle.
All they have said about UK manufacture of AZ is that it's still AZ where ever it's made. It seems our manufacture didn't work out so we have stuff that was made in the EU. How much and real facts on both sides - pass. It's politics.
The UK AZ man is rather shifty. There has been attempts to get production rates etc out of him and he has just fenced it off.
I use amazon family prime a lot. I don't pay for it either but reckon that if I did it would still work out providing I used the movie aspect which we do but only the free ones.
One thing for sure who's right or wrong will depend on which country or group you ask. Another thing that is certain is this sort of thing was bound to be a problem. The producers knew that they were going to have to produce way more than they could easily make and who knows when that will settle.
All they have said about UK manufacture of AZ is that it's still AZ where ever it's made. It seems our manufacture didn't work out so we have stuff that was made in the EU. How much and real facts on both sides - pass. It's politics.
The UK AZ man is rather shifty. There has been attempts to get production rates etc out of him and he has just fenced it off.
I use amazon family prime a lot. I don't pay for it either but reckon that if I did it would still work out providing I used the movie aspect which we do but only the free ones.
is this a person? Or a document published by the Commission? or a rumour you saw written on a lavatory wall?
The usual sources broadcast the entire speal EU lady in English so go read your toilet wall if you prefer to get info that way.
I'm a bit fed up of idiots.
Perhaps if we give them some vaccine they may release our ham sarnies 
where?
They wont publish it John.
They ordered it 3 months after everybody else, they ****** up.
He speaks very highly of you.
Oh thanks for reminding me, I got a weeks prime last Sat for some coffee pods.
I'd better cancel
Shame the EU weren't as canny as you, Notch
They'd be better off in the long run, just puffing their chests out and saying they got it wrong on this one, rather than acting like bullying and petulant children.
No-one gets it right all of the time, and reasonable people accept that.
It sounds like AZ are in an interesting position. If the media i've read is correct (my usual Tory sources), AZ signed a contract with the UK to deliver 100m doses of the vaccine made in UK factories. That contract also says that those factories can't supply any other country until we've had all our 100m doses.
The EU has signed a best endeavours contract that says that supplies will come from a 4 factories, 2 of which are in the UK. Their agreement was agreed 3 months later than the UK deal. I would expect that legally, the UK deal supersedes the EU deal, so the EU contractually aren't entitled to have any vaccine from UK factories until the UK contract has been fulfilled.
Which leaves the EU in a position where they need to attempt to bully AZ with blackmail about future access to the EU market in order to try to twist AZ's arm into breaking the contract that have with the UK.
All in all, it appears to me that the EU have royally f*cked this one up and our much derided government has done even better than we thought.
Interestingly, Oxford was about sign a deal with Merck to develop the vaccine until our government stepped in and funded the vaccine's development. Merck have just announced they've abandoned their own efforts to create a vaccine due to 'disappointing results from the prototype'.
The EU has signed a best endeavours contract that says that supplies will come from a 4 factories, 2 of which are in the UK. Their agreement was agreed 3 months later than the UK deal. I would expect that legally, the UK deal supersedes the EU deal, so the EU contractually aren't entitled to have any vaccine from UK factories until the UK contract has been fulfilled.
Which leaves the EU in a position where they need to attempt to bully AZ with blackmail about future access to the EU market in order to try to twist AZ's arm into breaking the contract that have with the UK.
All in all, it appears to me that the EU have royally f*cked this one up and our much derided government has done even better than we thought.
Interestingly, Oxford was about sign a deal with Merck to develop the vaccine until our government stepped in and funded the vaccine's development. Merck have just announced they've abandoned their own efforts to create a vaccine due to 'disappointing results from the prototype'.
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The EU says AZ has a moral duty to supply them. But there was no mention by the EU of a moral duty to supply other countries.
Until the whole world is vaccinated, we ain't out of the woods.
Until the whole world is vaccinated, we ain't out of the woods.
Does the EU say it has a moral duty to assist the British people, because we have a bunch of ****s in charge?
Let's face it ; a bunch of nest - feathering pen-pushers have ballsed - up for all to see, and they don't like that sort of attention.
