I don’t. And that includes posts by certain contributors to this and other fora.Don’t believe everything you read on the internet
I don’t. And that includes posts by certain contributors to this and other fora.Don’t believe everything you read on the internet
Agree,
And for an ex_BT technician it is a shame he doesn't know the London Numbering System
0203 633 XXXX is wrong
020 3633 XXXX is correct
Areas code for London is 020
then four digit exchange code 3633
then four digit subs' number XXXX ( on that exchange )
Yes they still are their property as it is very likely that they are connected to a a pair ( of wires ) in a distribution cable.
They need to protect the other circuits in a multipair cable from spurious signals that could be created by some one using a seemingly defunct telephone pair for an internal ( inside the house ) data or voice connection.
The pair may be dissed at the exchange or in a street cabinet so it appears to be dead but is still capacitively coupled to other pairs in the cable betweem house and cabinet / exchange
Indeed, but there are some contributors on almost every forum who are ‘in your face’ and will jump on any minor issue just because they think it makes them look clever.I am not trying to be combative. If you look through my posting history (hopefully) you will see that I am not the kind of person that seeks an argument.
especially if it's posted by winston1Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
I think you'll find Bernard is correct, THE code for London is published as 020.Err, I believe 0203 is actually a correct London code. It is the not so new overflow from 0207 & 0208 (inner & outer iirc).
Director (ex-) exchanges still have 3-digit grouping and 4-digit sub's numbering.
You believe wrong. The London code is 020. London numbers are 8 digits. So far only levels 3, 7, and 8 are used. Many people and businesses get this wrong despite extensive publicity by BT when 8 digit numbers were introduced.Err, I believe 0203 is actually a correct London code. It is the not so new overflow from 0207 & 0208 (inner & outer iirc).
Director (ex-) exchanges still have 3-digit grouping and 4-digit sub's numbering.
How do you know if they are connected to BT’s network (at the other end)? Bernard has explained well the possible problems if they are.Point taken. I will open up the box just above where the cable comes out of he ground. I can see that one goes to the house next door. It is a semi detached property.
Anything that is not connected to the "fat" cable I will remove. Doing so may well be illegal but I really don't expect to face prosecution. I don't totally understand your point about cables being repurposed in the customer's house though. Surely if remove any path back to the box/exchange, I am doing them a favour?
Would it really be detrimental to their network if I snipped a redundant cable that came out of their "floor" level junction box and terminated it with gel filled clips. In my lay head that would only make sense if they intentionally ran extra redundant cables, but I am not aware of them ever doing that. I understand the concept of twisted pairs in cat cables but I have only ever seen two BT wires terminate in an NTE5 box.
Sorry, I am not trying to be combative. If you look through my posting history (hopefully) you will see that I am not the kind of person that seeks an argument. I just struggle to see how BT can claim ownership of lines that may not be physically connected to their network, nor do I understand how they may argue that those disconnected lines are crucial to them providing a reliable service.
I genuinely appreciate the responses thus far, and I suspect that they were well intentioned, however, I cannot see how it is an offence to remove cables that are not connected to BT's network.
Another unnecessary insult from SUNRAY. Why are you such a cyber bully? You never answered my question whether you were going to insult Bernard in the same way for agreeing with me.especially if it's posted by winston1
There will certainly be no record of where a drop wire (or any other cable) is physically run.
My neighbours, who have a steel stock holding company, still have one. Dealing with overseas companies its the most secure means of communication, to date nothing has been found to have the same degree of communication confidence..Wow, that takes me back to my telegraph days. I doubt that anyone* in the uk has a working telex line these days.
*you watch, someone on here will have one…
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