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In Asda today, I was reminded of the Soviet Union in the 80s when they showed women queueing up for hours just for a loaf of bread. The whole frozen veg aisle at Asda was almost empty. Reckon there was barely 20% of the capacity in the freezers.
Reagan's joke could apply to us now. Only we can get the cars, just not the fuel to put in them.
Reagan's joke could apply to us now. Only we can get the cars, just not the fuel to put in them.
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I've noticed supermarket shelves being low on stock lately but it's no big deal - there is still much more choice than there was 40 or 50 years ago. We've had too much choice and too much production. Our local Tesco has an entire aisle of crisps, an entire aisle of shampoo, an entire aisle of biscuits etc etc. Far too much. Amazon apparently produces so much junk it has to destroy or give away free a great amount of product.
Reagan was brilliant but much maligned. Made peace with the USSR.
Reagan was brilliant but much maligned. Made peace with the USSR.
Bought an almost new one 14 years ago, so I suppose it's due a change soon. Will hang onto it a while longer.
They weren't perfect, but no one can take away from Thatcher and Reagan the credit for a major contribution to peace in Europe.
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Yes, Gorby (90 years old). But I highlighted Thatcher and Reagan because often people only focus on their mistakes and failures.
Why not compare the UK as it was 100 years ago? 200?
You could spout your irrelevant nonsense that we had 10 times the choice or a hundred times the choice.
The point is that the UK is worse off now than we were only 5 years ago. And that's what's alarming.
Brexit - huge pile of poo.
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Eh?
How would a slave trade analogy work with bare supermarket shelves? I don't see any correlation.
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Holding governments accountable 200 years after the event can't help those who suffered. Let's deal with slavery here and now.
Same same but different?
Covid, an even bigger pile of virus particles.
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Interesting comment, Bodd.
Perhaps we should look at how democracies work. It is the acceptance of the decisions of the majority, by the whole population, of the electorate.
They work by the population electing someone ( or a group of someones) to represent them, make policies, laws, decisions, etc.
In that respect, the people (collectively, but not individually) have a responsibility of the actions, the direction, etc, of that government.
So if a government makes a decision, sets a policy, creates the environment, allows behaviour, etc, then the government, as the peoples' representatives are responsible, and so are the people (collectively) who elected them. Unless 'the people' take action to unseat the elected government because they are so discontented with their actions. But if the people do not take such drastic action, it suggests that their discontent is not widespread. (I'm not an anarchist and I'm not promoting anarchy!)
Now 'collectively' suggests that no individuals (other than the representatives themselves, who only act on the mandate given to them) but the people are responsible, the 'people' as a whole are responsible.
Now of course, one cannot identify any individuals that constitutes the people, because individuals come and individuals go.
But the notion of 'the people', 'the nation' remains, throughout the ages.
Therefore, if a nation and its people are responsible for reprehensible actions, committed by the elected government, then 'the people' are responsible, whether it is the people of yesteryear, or the people of today. Individuals, within 'the people' are not identifiable, but 'the people' collectively are, and therefore there is an argument that 'the people', collectively, should bear the responsibility of "the people's" actions and that of their elected government.
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