trade deal with Australia....there isn't one

[Notch7]

"The Australian trade minister had hoped to clinch an agreement with his U.K. counterpart Anne-Marie Trevelyan at the end of his long, multi-stop trip across the globe, but the two sides ended up kicking the can."

15th Oct 2021

https://www.politico.eu/article/australian-trade-minister-leaves-uk-with-no-deal/

 

[ellal]

"One person at the event Tehan spoke at said some eyebrows were raised when he said he hoped to build on migration agreements in the deal, one of which will see people under the age of 35 able to get working visas more easily. He said he wanted migration to be “free-flowing” between the two nations, and as good a deal as the U.K. had with the EU."

Wait until the same demands are made by Asian/African/South American countries in return for the same trade deals that the UK already had through the EU...

They could even be worse...

Brexiteers should be apoplectic, but they won't be because they don't get it that their 'victory' was simply a Pyrrhic one!

 

[ReganAndCarter]

So we haven't actually got an agreement? The one that gives Oz so much? And we sell them Chorley cakes, or summat.

The Aussies can smell Bozza's desperation. They've already got him to drop the Paris Climate Agreement, and they'll be making him sweat as they wait for him to give more ground. He needs to get a move on. If we have to cull any more animals, we're really going to need that cheap, low grade beef.

 

[fillyboy]

So we haven't actually got an agreement? The one that gives Oz so much? And we sell them Chorley cakes, or summat.

Aye, Chorley cakes and nuclear sub technology.

 

[noseall]

Tory bots like filly, like to make a big splash with 'trade deal agreed' attention grabbing headlines. Two paragraphs later 'in talks' is actually the truth.
Gammons really should not read those horrific rags.

 

[Notch7]

Aye, Chorley cakes and nuclear sub technology.

No, the USA have a Nuclear sub technology deal, we might get some crumbs.

don’t forget, Brexit made the UK very weak, it’s just a minnow in the world now.

 

[Notch7]

So we haven't actually got an agreement

The big splash in the media a few months back was on the back of…

“agreement in principle”

summer 2022 is the earliest we will get a deal….sorry, I’m mean agree to Australia’s terms

 

[fillyboy]

summer 2022 is the earliest we will get a deal…

Not a problem, 29 out of 32 articles already agreed, so we'll still have a trade deal in half the time the EU are projected to agree one. Oh wait, the EU have postponed trade talks with Oz, something to do with submarines I believe.

 

[Vinty]

it’s just a minnow in the world now

Compared to whom?
UK has the strongest military in Europe.

 

[JohnD]

UK has the strongest military in Europe.

That's interesting.

Are you counting number of serving soldiers?

Number of tanks that are actually in working order?

Something else?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Aye, Chorley cakes and nuclear sub technology.

How much input do we have? When it comes to civil nuclear infrastructure, we have to rely on the French and Chinese. To think we were once pioneers and leaders in the nuclear industry with BNFL, etc. Think it was the Tories who closed BNFL.

At least I'm almost certain that we still lead the world in the production of Chorley cakes.

 

[fillyboy]

How much input do we have? When it comes to civil nuclear infrastructure, we have to rely on the French and Chinese. To think we were once pioneers and leaders in the nuclear industry with BNFL, etc.

Rolls Royce have designed and supplied the nuclear reactors that power our submarines, that expertise is now being focused on mini nuclear power plants, UK Gov is heavily invested and the export potential is beyond huge.

Brexit Britain at it's best.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Rolls Royce have designed and supplied the nuclear reactors that power our submarines, that expertise is now being focused on mini nuclear power plants, UK Gov is heavily invested and the export potential is beyond huge.

Brexit Britain at it's best.

Would Rolls Royce not have been able to sell to other countries before Brexit?

I could be wrong, but I remember Rolls Royce being large and successful pre-Brexit. It's great that Brexit has achieved all this so quickly.

My only fear is that the mini nuclear plants may need to be transported by lorry.

 

[fillyboy]

That's interesting.

Are you counting number of serving soldiers?

Number of tanks that are actually in working order?

Something else?

In terms of size, I believe we're the fifth largest in Europe, Greece is no.4.

I believe Vinty said the 'strongest military' in Europe, that's not something I would dispute.

 

[fillyboy]

Would Rolls Royce not have been able to sell to other countries before Brexit?

Could the UK Govt help fund the developement prior to Brexit? wouldn't that be classed as 'state aid'? wouldn't that be against EU rules because of distorting competition.

As I said, Brexit Britain at it's best.