NEWSFLASH -sue grays report!!

Party how could it be a party

was there a

bouncy castle ? No
Barbecue ? No
Hog roast ? No
Live music ? No
Disco ? No

any one caught dropping there trousers ? no

any one arrested for being drunk and disorderly ? No

any one lobbing up ? No

a fight ? No

any one end up in A and E getting a coke bottle pulled out there wat sit ? No

no to all the above

so how was it a party o_O:confused:


As much as I like you, never invite me to one of your 'parties'.
 
In fairness John, the impression I get from people I speak to is they're bored of all this now and just want him to be left to get on with running the country, and that includes people who don't like him. It's gone on too long, it's boring and trivial.
He's not going to be deposed for having a glass of wine and a slice of birthday cake whilst at work, the police aren't going to rock up at no.10 and arrest him, it's just getting silly now.

It's more than "unfair, its a bitch hunt.
:D
Any manager that thinks that alcoholic induced discussion and sensible decisions go hand in hand need their brains testing.

I remember many moons ago having a discussion with another manager who would habitually retire to the pub late Friday afternoons, with an open invitation to his management team.
I attended one of these 'team building' meetings.
Early the following week I discussed with him that his 'team building' meetings excluded some of the team for various reasons, faith, aversion to alcohol, even possibly reformed alcoholics, etc.
Furthermore, the practice was perpetuating the opinion that some appointments may be influenced during such sessions due to behaviour, 'joining in the culture', etc. There was also a danger of practices and policies being determined and finalised without the participation of some team members, who would be faced with a fait accompli.
There were far better ways for regular unstructured 'team meetings' to facilitate team building.
The sessions didn't stop. I had no jurisdiction to stop them, and they went on into out-of-normal-working hours anyway. The culture deteriorated into something approaching chaos and required many years under new management to retrieve.

Any leader that think that alcohol induced social interaction facilitates team building allows a deteriorating culture to develop, excludes and alienates some team members, which allows certain 'group think' in the team to fester.
 
Any manager that thinks that alcoholic induced discussion and sensible decisions go hand in hand need their brains testing.

I remember many moons ago having a discussion with another manager who would habitually retire to the pub late Friday afternoons, with an open invitation to his management team.
I attended one of these 'team building' meetings.
Early the following week I discussed with him that his 'team building' meetings excluded some of the team for various reasons, faith, aversion to alcohol, even possibly reformed alcoholics, etc.
Furthermore, the practice was perpetuating the opinion that some appointments may be influenced during such sessions due to behaviour, 'joining in the culture', etc. There was also a danger of practices and policies being determined and finalised without the participation of some team members, who would be faced with a fait accompli.
There were far better ways for regular unstructured 'team meetings' to facilitate team building.
The sessions didn't stop. I had no jurisdiction to stop them, and they went on into out-of-normal-working hours anyway. The culture deteriorated into something approaching chaos and required many years under new management to retrieve.

Any leader that think that alcohol induced social interaction facilitates team building allows a deteriorating culture to develop, excludes and alienates some team members, which allows certain 'group think' in the team to fester.

I bet your the life and soul of the party.
 
I bet your the life and soul of the party.
One doesn't need to be under the influence of alcohol to have a good time. Quite the opposite.
Alcoholic induced behaviour has been the downfall of many.
 
Any manager that thinks that alcoholic induced discussion and sensible decisions go hand in hand need their brains testing.

Any leader that think that alcohol induced social interaction facilitates team building allows a deteriorating culture to develop, excludes and alienates some team members, which allows certain 'group think' in the team to fester.

One of the first things Alex Ferguson did at Old Trafford was dismantle the drinking-club clique within the squad.
(it did so much to explain why United never won the league under 'Big Ron'.)
The new generation of players quickly learned to keep the partying away from their team duties.

And an episode of Friends highlights your point about alienating members of a group - although they were smokers - who nipped out for a fag and chatted about policy, coming to decisions between themselves without consulting non-smokers, leaving them 'out-of-the-loop' altogether.

It's one thing to have a beer with lunch, as Keir Starmer did, but a completely different issue to have a 'Wine Friday' and fetching suitcases of booze into #10. I don't see how the report can ignore the recorded fact that to parliament he denied there even was a party before finally admitting it when the details leaked out.
Telling porkies to the British public is one thing but standing at the dispatch box and making it up as you go along is grounds for dismissal.
 
And an episode of Friends highlights your point about alienating members of a group - although they were smokers - who nipped out for a fag and chatted about policy, coming to decisions between themselves without consulting non-smokers, leaving them 'out-of-the-loop' altogether.
I'd forgotten about smoking, and I'm going back to a time when smoking was still allowed in pubs.
That was one of the reasons why I stopped going into pubs, because afterwards my eyes suffered and my scalp itched with the smoke and the smell on my clothes became unbearable. I'd invariably put all of my clothes in the wash and take a shower when I arrived home.
I suspect there were many who didn't go into pubs for the same reasons.
Sorry, and I have seen your 'roll-up' comment.
 
I bet your the life and soul of the party.
If a leader thinks that being the life and soul of the party is the way to successful management, they need their strategy re-appraising.
They might be popular with their workforce, (or with those of similar mentality) but that doesn't automatically lead to a successful, ambitious and capable workforce.
 
I'd forgotten about smoking, and I'm going back to a time when smoking was still allowed in pubs.
That was one of the reasons why I stopped going into pubs...I suspect there were many who didn't go into pubs for the same reasons.
Sorry, and I have seen your 'roll-up' comment.

No worries: i smoke in my den, where the computer sits amidst clutter and crumbs in a comfortable chaos. The garden shed serves a similar purpose.
If i go out, i accept there will be rules governing my habit and act accordingly; it's no problem to go without tobacco for an hour or two.
I started young and can't quit now but sometimes its good to clear the lungs.
I stopped going into pubs when i decided to stop drinking and avoid the temptation unless its a special occasion - or that time of year when i harvest my apples and celebrate with good cider.
 
In fairness John, the impression I get from people I speak to is they're bored of all this now and just want him to be left to get on with running the country,

Getting to that stage is the whole idea. A media problem is that no one can be totally sure why some particular person may decide to feed them with information. Fringe media, youtube etc is even worse in that respect.

Him running the country - really. The cabinet is generally a group of like minded people they and their "servants" run the country,. Those are not all of the civil type.

The bloke himself. Previously viewed as someone the Tory kept at arms length. Pro EU and suddenly isn't. It smells of a deal to me and a bloke that swings to suite himself.

Policies. Often it is hard to see what the eventual result will be. For instance business rate retention said to be intended to cause councils to look at attracting more businesses to their area. What has happened - have a read. Seems to be pretty predictable to me.
https://www.lgcplus.com/politics/lgc-briefing/the-business-rates-backlash-29-09-2020/

Brexit is another one really. Recent changes to the JSA - what will they do and what does it really mean to the people who are concerned. Changes in the school area. More expensive initially but cheaper over time. What has it done to education really. Change how qualifications levels are determined. Increase retirement age is an interesting one too. The so called British Privatisation Experiment that more are beginning to wonder about in some areas. PFI's.
 
Why can't you quit?

Don't really want to, is the short answer to that.
As difficult as it is to beleive for non-smokers i actually enjoy it, especially with a cup of good strong tea, preferably PGTips.
 
Why are you always so angry?
Angry at things that affect me personally...

You voted for brexshit so you obviously realised the restrictions that would then apply, didn't you?

mottie is just a 'one trick pony' and keeps repeating itself in order to try and cover up it's ignorance...

So neither of you come up looking even a tad bit intelligent...

But in the cold light of day deep down you know that don't you!
 
Party how could it be a party

was there a

bouncy castle ? No
Barbecue ? No
Hog roast ? No
Live music ? No
Disco ? No

any one caught dropping there trousers ? no

any one arrested for being drunk and disorderly ? No

any one lobbing up ? No

a fight ? No

any one end up in A and E getting a coke bottle pulled out there wat sit ? No

no to all the above

so how was it a party o_O:confused:
Shag ging in the toilets though? quite possible.
 
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