Boris and the Brexit Gaffe.

[Deleted member 174758]

Yeah but what are the grown ups talking about?

Johnson isn't a grown up - grown ups are mature enough not to make political capital out of the death and suffering of others

Don't you think it shameful for Global Britain the EU and USA have confined him to the naughty seat in the corner when it comes to discussing sanctions against Russia? Because he isn't a statesman, he is widely regarded as a corrupt, disingenuous liar who is not to be trusted - someone who talks the talk, but then doesn't deliver. Just like the way the rest of his government works - all mouth and trousers

 

[fillyboy]

Johnson isn't a grown up - grown ups are mature enough not to make political capital out of the death and suffering of others

Don't you think it shameful for Global Britain the EU and USA have confined him to the naughty seat in the corner when it comes to discussing sanctions against Russia? Because he isn't a statesman, he is widely regarded as a corrupt, disingenuous liar who is not to be trusted - someone who talks the talk, but then doesn't deliver. Just like the way the rest of his government works - all mouth and trousers

He'll be at the NATO meeting and the G7 meeting, NATO will cover military and G7 will cover sanctions, the EU summit will mainly involve Biden kicking the EU leaders in the nuts over the amount of energy they're importing from Russia and asking Macron WTF Renault have resumed production in Russia.

 

[ajohn]

About time he scored a hat trick.

Like a cat maybe he needs 6. Stands a chance as he is pretty good at doing it

 

[ajohn]

someone who talks the talk, but then doesn't deliver.

Sounds like he intends to fine P&O for breaking redundancy rules. Wont get jobs back or end fire and hire. Sounds good though.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Yes, but no talk of suspending the £50m of contracts they were awarded until matters are resolved, and no talk of Britain's strategic interests - anyone remember, for example, that the MV Norland (P&O North Sea Ferries) was one of the vessels that went to the Falklands? She was on MoD duty for 10 months

Also, considering how Johnson in the early days of his premiership talked about workers here having better rights than those in the EU and about a bar on fire and rehire, etc but when it came to it the Tories were whipped to vote against the legislation. And now there seems to be no intention to revisit this area of legislation at all - far better to have the workers on their knees and without rights as a way of pacifying them, I suppose (and before you get the wrong idea I am self-employed/semi-retired and I have been an employer of cards-in staff in the past)

 

[ajohn]

but no talk of suspending the £50m of contracts

Maybe they can subcontract to the people who run punts on the river at Oxford. They may have hobson 's choice.

 

[fillyboy]

Yes, but no talk of suspending the £50m of contracts they were awarded until matters are resolved, and no talk of Britain's strategic interests - anyone remember, for example, that the MV Norland (P&O North Sea Ferries) was one of the vessels that went to the Falklands? She was on MoD duty for 10 months

The story's only 48 hours old so maybe a little early for talk about cancellation of contracts, I'm hopeful it will happen and I believe it should. As for Britain's strategic interests, you're correct and will note from an earlier post of mine that P & O Ports was allowed to be sold off under a Labour Govt whilst the USA blocked the sale of a number of US ports under the same agreement for security reasons, we didn't.

As for workers rights, we generally do well in this country compared to the rest of the world and certainly compared to the EU. The problem with shipping is that ships and shipping companies can be 'opaque' in their ownership, since I was a kid most boats for some reason seemed to be registered in Panama, I don't know the reason for that but I'm sure that must have a bearing liabilities and workers rights.

But **** all that, lets blame it all on Boris Johnson and Brexit, it's a lot easier than having an intelligent debate about the true causes.

 

[motorbiking]

My boat in Greece, is French flagged, greek registered. Why? The French run a VAT scam, that is designed to pull VAT from its neighbours and subsidise French yacht builders, while Greek registered boats are largely exempt or subject to significant discounts on port taxes. Saves about £30k on purchase and about £1,500 a year.

 

[noseall]

Perhaps that greedy grasping Tory ferry company - that one set up without any ferries - could have a chat with P&O?