N. I. Protocol

[ellal]

More nonsense from Notch.

Actually it's been going on before brexit day, so not nonsense...

"As a major supplier of food in Northern Ireland, Lynas Foodservice is sourcing more goods such as cheese from across the open border with EU-member Ireland to avoid the bureaucratic trade hurdles being erected with Britain after Brexit.

The supplier of coffee chains, fast food giants and pubs has rerouted European stock via Dublin and sought out Irish or EU suppliers to ease the pressure once British goods require customs checks and paperwork to enter the province when the United Kingdom exits the European Union on Dec. 31.

Northern Ireland will remain aligned to the EU’s single market and goods arriving in Northern Ireland will be subject to EU customs rules.

Managing Director Andrew Lynas told Reuters that he expects more administrative paperwork even if Britain secures a trade deal with the bloc, and has started to look for more products such as cheese and charcuterie from south of the Irish border.

“The two big things we’ve worked on are the routing of goods through Dublin and how to source more EU and Irish (produce),” he told Reuters. “We’ve absolutely been doing that and I think regardless of what happens, more of that will happen.”

 

[Vinty]

Northern Irish economy outperforming UK thanks to Brexit protocol: Experts

Still talking ****** Notch.
For every so called 'expert' there are real living business people who tell a different story, one of whom i have quoted in my link.
As for the N.I. economy outperforming the UK, which i doubt, any increase in economic output has nothing to do with the Protocol as you seem to forget that the Protocol has not yet been fully implemented.

 

[Vinty]

a return to violence

The above is a familiar refrain of yours Notch, are you trying to send some sort of subliminal message to the public. Lol.

Are you implying that the EU and its supporters could turn nasty if they don't get their way.

Have a good look at history Notchy, you have some sections of the Irish political class siding with the French, Germans against Britain.

This scenario has played out before and guess who the losers were.
Stop backing losers notchy

 

[Vinty]

Borders are two way by definition

So by your definition the UK has the right to set up border posts across Europe to prevent illegal immigrants entering the UK.
Or in the event of a resurgence of violence in Ireland the UK should have the right enter the Irish Republic to prevent terrorists entering Ulster.

 

[noseall]

serious practical problems or causing diversion of trade".

No, the withdrawal agreement is doing exactly what it was predicted to do. Both sides knew this. There are zero grounds for unilateral law breaking.

 

[noseall]

Still talking ****** Notch.
For every so called 'expert' there are real living business people who tell a different story, one of whom i have quoted in my link.

Only one side is bleating. The other wish the protocol to stay as it is. There are no grounds to scrap the rules, sorry.

 

[Mottie]

You seem to know more than our government legal experts. Quick, get on to the courts and explain that they have no case and get it thrown out. No need for any case, just go under a Notch ruling.

 

[Vinty]

Only one side is bleating. The other wish the protocol to stay as it is. There are no grounds to scrap the rules, sorry.

You obviously don't understand the issues involved.
Under the so called Good Friday Agreement this Protocol requires the consent of both communities in Ulster.
This is what underpins the whole agreement and government in Ulster.
It was Sinn Fein who insisted on the principle of mutual consent of both Nationalist and Unionist political blocs for any political change.
Most of N.I. trade is between N.I and GB, so any barriers will damage that trade and it isn't just trade that is the problem, there are also social issues .
If the EU want no border for north south trade in Ireland then that will have to be counterbalanced by no trade border between N.I. and GB.

 

[noseall]

You obviously don't understand the issues involved.
Under the so called Good Friday Agreement this Protocol requires the consent of both communities in Ulster.
This is what underpins the whole agreement and government in Ulster.
It was Sinn Fein who insisted on the principle of mutual consent of both Nationalist and Unionist political blocs for any political change.
Most of N.I. trade is between N.I and GB, so any barriers will damage that trade and it isn't just trade that is the problem, there are also social issues .
If the EU want no border for north south trade in Ireland then that will have to be counterbalanced by no trade border between N.I. and GB.

They need to get on with it then and deal with Boris's fab oven ready deal that he carefully negotiated.

 

[fillyboy]

Only one side is bleating. The other wish the protocol to stay as it is. There are no grounds to scrap the rules, sorry.

The protocol was meant to protect the EU 'border' UK & NI trade and to protect the Good Friday Agreement. It's protected the EU border but caused problems on the other two fronts. It's not working and can't carry on. The solutions are incredibly simple, trusted trader schemes, two channels of entry, one for goods intended for end use in NI, different rules for goods that could be transhipped from NI to the Republic. The EU won't accept any proposal, not because they're unworkable, not because they're unfair, it's simply because they're c***s. FFS man look at how Switzerlands talks have broken down after 7 years because of the EU's pig headedness.

The NI problem is easily solvable, unless of course you're dealing with the EU.

Negotiations are over, **** the EU and their overbearing insistence on hard borders, **** the fawning sycophants on here who worship at the alter of the EU and delight at 'our' country being bullied into submission.

There is a good chance of 'the troubles' re-emerging in NI, of course the EU supporting ****'s on here will be absolutely ******* delighted with that, they'll be cumming in their panties for days, Notch will run out of knickers.

This is a fight Boris will win, it's a fight he has to win. What the **** is a free trade with the EU worth if we're not even allowed to trade within our own country. Bin the ******'s off and scrap the whole deal, will they erect barbed wire fences on the NI border? will they ****.

 

[fillyboy]

Under the so called Good Friday Agreement this Protocol requires the consent of both communities in Ulster.
This is what underpins the whole agreement and government in Ulster.
It was Sinn Fein who insisted on the principle of mutual consent of both Nationalist and Unionist political blocs for any political change.

I sense Sinn Fein are more relaxed with non mutual consent these days, egged on by the EU of course.

Sorry, who's threatening the GFI agreement?

 

[fillyboy]

And here's the latest defence from the EU, absolutely pathetic.

MSN

www.msn.com

The EU’s Brexit negotiator has said checks in the Irish Sea are needed to protect consumers in Northern Ireland against unsafe goods arriving from Britain.
Maros Sefcovic insisted it was now Brussels’ responsibility to ensure the “public health…of the people in Northern Ireland is not under threat”.

Really?

 

[Vinty]

I sense Sinn Fein are more relaxed with non mutual consent these days, egged on by the EU of course.

Sorry, who's threatening the GFI agreement?

The whole GFA was predicated on the appeasement of the IRA and their political mouthpiece Sinn Fein.
They were effectively given an amnesty for their crimes by Tony Blair while ex British soldiers are still being put on trial in Belfast for stuff that happened 40 or 50 years ago.
Blair also acceded to Sinn Fein demand for the creation of Nationalist and Unionist political blocs which allowed Sinn Féin or the DUP a veto on any legislation they didn't like, even if a majority supported it.
This is why politics in N.I. is so disfunctional.
Now that Sinn Féin and the EU are in the driving seat they want to dispense with the principle of mutual consent in order to marginalise the Unionist community.

 

[Notch7]

And here's the latest defence from the EU, absolutely pathetic.

MSN

www.msn.com

The EU’s Brexit negotiator has said checks in the Irish Sea are needed to protect consumers in Northern Ireland against unsafe goods arriving from Britain.
Maros Sefcovic insisted it was now Brussels’ responsibility to ensure the “public health…of the people in Northern Ireland is not under threat”.

Really?

Well the food standards of brexit Britain food is sh1t

 

[Notch7]

alter of the EU and delight at 'our' country being bullied into submission

Isnt it strange how brexers always frame arguments in emotive terms.