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[Mottie]

If the British tourists learnt from this palaver, they would not risk going to France again. The French are petty and will do all they can to make life difficult for us.

Yep. Now the villa has gone and we've been paid up, we've just some taxes and utility companies to sort out and we're done with Spain for a while. Haven’t been there since 2019 and TBH, we haven’t missed it. In fact because of transport uncertainties, I wouldn’t trust going to Europe in general and France in particular for a good while yet. Jersey for us a week ago and we've booked a cottage in the Lake District for September. Possibly the Peak district again for the new year. For the foreseeable, we'll be spending our holidays and our money anywhere other than Europe and I don’t think I’m alone in that decision.

 

[transam]

There is a simple solution. Forcibly send all of the xenophobes who live in the UK to Rwanda. Not only would it create a wide range of vacancies for the unemployed, part solve housing problems it would also prevent even yet more idiotic posts on here.

Numbers would be a relatively small number of those that voted out. Their brain cells wouldn't be missed.

Blimey you want to go to Rwanda

 

[Deleted member 174758]

100% of those that voted in the referendum were 'Brexit’ voters.

A point for you to consider: when I voted to join the EEC (as it then was) in referendum, the vote to join had to be a 2/3 majority to succeed. It was. So why wasn't the exit vote on the same basis, then?

 

[transam]

A point for you to consider: when I voted to join the EEC (as it then was) in referendum, the vote to join had to be a 2/3 majority to succeed. It was. So why wasn't the exit vote on the same basis, then?

Dunno best address that question to those who set the referendum rules

And dare say
The SNP would want those rules in the forth coming (?) independance
Vote

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Although the Netherlands and Belgium are also in the EU, as I understand it they don't possess the hatred that the French have for the British and I'm sure would welcome our tourist money.

Frankly, I don't think they'd be that bothered either way. In the Netherlands young Brits have a poor reputation of being (potentially) noisy, violent drunkards - certainly when I lived over there I at times went out of my way to avoid Brits on holiday. These days pretty much all the Dutch that I speak to don't hold this country in such high regard any more, partly because we voted for Brexit, but equally as much because of the apparent intention we have of leaving the European Court of Human Rights (which we were a founder member of just after WWII, and which is nothing whatsoever to do with the EU), and they regard the problems we have created for ourselves as being "made from your own stupidity"

As far as passport control goes, when I used to travel back and forth regularly (before freedom of movement was enacted) there were far fewer people travelling to and from the Netherlands, and it frequently took 5 to 10 minutes to get through passport control and customs back then. Same if you drove to Calais and went to Dover, except that the Frogs were always the more likely to mess you about (as indeed could Customs if you fetched up at Dover on a foreign motorbike). Multiply that wait by 10,000 people and you begin to see the problem in going 40 years backwards but having a lot more people expecting that after Brexit things would say the same. Good job the Passport Office is so inefficient that many people won't be able to get their passports in time to travel, or we'd have even more chaos

 

[ellal]

A point for you to consider: when I voted to join the EEC (as it then was) in referendum, the vote to join had to be a 2/3 majority to succeed. It was. So why wasn't the exit vote on the same basis, then?

A point for you to consider...

You didn't actually vote to join the EEC, you voted to remain in it after having a trial run for a while and thus you knew what you were voting for at the time...

Brexiteers claim they knew exactly what they were voting for when they decided to leave, but they didn't actually have a clue did they!

 

[ajohn]

Blimey you want to go to Rwanda

I didn't vote out and I am not a xenophobe. I concluded that being in was a better state of "badness" than being out. I'm a realist and know that solving this countires problems will not be easy and as business really runs the world may be impossible. Out leaves a lot of questions and the reasons did contain a lot of flannel. Xenophobia was also encouraged. It's a fascist technique.

 

[Mottie]

A point for you to consider: when I voted to join the EEC (as it then was) in referendum, the vote to join had to be a 2/3 majority to succeed. It was. So why wasn't the exit vote on the same basis, then?

Trouble was, it didn’t remain as the EEC did it?

 

[transam]

I didn't vote out and I am not a xenophobe. I concluded that being in was a better state of "badness" than being out. I'm a realist and know that solving this countires problems will not be easy and as business really runs the world may be impossible. Out leaves a lot of questions and the reasons did contain a lot of flannel. Xenophobia was also encouraged. It's a fascist technique.

Oh so it’s only those who
Voted out than

 

[JBR]

I wouldn’t trust going to Europe in general and France in particular for a good while yet. Jersey for us a week ago and we've booked a cottage in the Lake District for September. Possibly the Peak district again for the new year. For the foreseeable, we'll be spending our holidays and our money anywhere other than Europe and I don’t think I’m alone in that decision.

Me too. Actually, we are going to Switzerland in September on the Eurostar. Our first stop is in Belgium, so I'm assuming that we'll avoid the obstructive Frogs, then through Germany avoiding France completely.
I'm not sure whether there will be any hold-ups on the way, but hopefully avoiding our 'old allies' we may be OK.

 

[JBR]

Frankly, I don't think they'd be that bothered either way. In the Netherlands young Brits have a poor reputation of being (potentially) noisy, violent drunkards - certainly when I lived over there I at times went out of my way to avoid Brits on holiday.

Yes, I believe that our yobs do nothing to help make us popular! Of course, if the Europeans had any sense they'd mark the passports of any troublemakers (and yes they make trouble here in our country too!) and next time they arrive at the passport checks they would either be delayed or not even allowed to pass.
Better still, perhaps they might be persuaded to do us a favour and keep them!

 

[ajohn]

Oh so it’s only those who
Voted out than

No I specifically said some of them and not all that many.

LOL Mind you of 1/2 the population left greening. space and housing would be a ;lot simpler. Might also result in true 100% employment LOL that would have it's own complications.

 

[JBR]

A point for you to consider...

You didn't actually vote to join the EEC, you voted to remain in it after having a trial run for a while and thus you knew what you were voting for at the time...

Brexiteers claim they knew exactly what they were voting for when they decided to leave, but they didn't actually have a clue did they!

I don't remember voting to join the EEC, but I certainly would have done. I am all in favour of a free-trade organisation.
What I cannot ever accept is handing over this country to a foreign power like the EU and allowing them to dictate their rules and laws to us. So, yes, I knew exactly what I was voting for when I voted to leave.
My only regret is that our inept politicians have ensured that we achieved BRINO and not a true Brexit. They also seem to have ensured that we continue to pay the EU £millions for absolutely nothing.

 

[Deleted member 292770]

Go on, share the video, article, tweet, even tik tok, of the BBC saying this.

I already said it was htv. And granted it was the port authority that gave the ‘order’ (since when the port authority gave orders to people to stay in their houses I don’t know). It does not alter the fact that the news channel reiterated the ‘order’ as if it was the norm.
And now you come here condoning and stupidly ignoring the fact that the port authority think it acceptable to order people to stay in their houses , to gain a pathetic point in a pathetic p!ssing contest against me on a pathetic diy forum .
Get a life and stop being a twit.

 

[crystal ball]

I already said it was htv. And granted it was the port authority that gave the ‘order’ (since when the port authority gave orders to people to stay in their houses I don’t know). It does not alter the fact that the news channel reiterated the ‘order’ as if it was the norm.
And now you come here condoning and stupidly ignoring the fact that the port authority think it acceptable to order people to stay in their houses , to gain a pathetic point in a pathetic p!ssing contest against me on a pathetic diy forum .
Get a life and stop being a twit.

Its only taken you three attempts to get your non story over, rather stupid wouldn't you think.