Complete tosh.
The problem with the NHS and public services is 12 years of Tory govt.
Who is it that spouts sh1t about immigrants: Tory govt and it’s client media.
Tory supporters are so easily brainwashed it’s untrue.
The problem with the NHS and public services is 12 years of Tory govt.
Who is it that spouts sh1t about immigrants: Tory govt and it’s client media.
Tory supporters are so easily brainwashed it’s untrue.
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Did he wear a badge saying “I am an Iraqi refugee”
btw, if he was Iraqi, he probably got his money the same way Nadhim Zahawi did: Oil.
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No we aren't, more Andy nonsense.
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No, nowhere near that.
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No thanks, it doesn't work like that. Back up what you claim, or don't, I'm not bothered. But don't expect your gut feelings to be believed by others.
The Albanians who come here illegally know that they can't claim asylum because Albania isn't at war.
They have a new scam of claiming to have been trafficked, this means they can't be deported immediately.
I wonder (and I'm wondering this genuinely, not meaning it sarcastically) how much of a vote winner/loser it would be for the Conservatives or Labour if they were to introduce a manifesto pledge for the next GE to commit a HUGE sum of money to this for a period of 24-36 months to (hopefully) nip it in the bud? Not just with reference to Albanians but all migrants entering the country over the channel.
Let's face it, we can't rely on France to do anything overly constructive on this (in terms of stopping them leaving France) so what if our major parties committed to spend almost whatever it takes to significantly reduce the chances of these people getting further than the south coast? e.g. massive investment in patrol boats, land patrols, clean/safe purpose built and ultra secure holding premises for these people to be housed until their case was reviewed and decided on. Investment in specific legal folk to fast-track them one way or the other.
Obviously I don't have a scooby as to what this would cost, but let's say they estimated it would cost £700 million a year to literally make the coast like fort knox, would it be a vote winner?
Let's face it, we can't rely on France to do anything overly constructive on this (in terms of stopping them leaving France) so what if our major parties committed to spend almost whatever it takes to significantly reduce the chances of these people getting further than the south coast? e.g. massive investment in patrol boats, land patrols, clean/safe purpose built and ultra secure holding premises for these people to be housed until their case was reviewed and decided on. Investment in specific legal folk to fast-track them one way or the other.
Obviously I don't have a scooby as to what this would cost, but let's say they estimated it would cost £700 million a year to literally make the coast like fort knox, would it be a vote winner?
You do know that's not the only reason to claim asylum don't you?
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whilst that's not a bad idea in itself, I think it's a bit deeper.
Not sure any party is willing to stand up and approach the issue like that, but could certainly be a vote winner from a certain section of the public.
But the real issue is longer term to address the reason for a lot of genuine movement of people, and then the financial reasons for a lot of others.
But to make money in a very Capitalist society means exploiting people somewhere
Loser I'd guess.
Labour/Tories want to take £10 Billion from frontline services to stop 100 boats. We will do it cheaper and better and spend that money on more nurses!
And nothing will stop this, you just can't. You'd have to occupy the coast of France and recreate WW2 fortifications.
The realist in me tends to agree with this. As I've said previously, regardless of your views on migration, I reckon there's going to be a LOT more of it in decades to come.
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If any of the uniparty (liblabcongreensnp) pledged this they would win by an absolute landslide as it's what the people want. It wouldn't be delivered though.
Oh, and it's gone past the "nip it in the bud" stage; we have had 25 years of Blair's immigration policy.
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Yet again, and very very wearily, I give you the facts. Please read and then tell me I'm wrong:
1.285 million "unemployed"; 8.748 million "economically inactive".
Employment in the UK - Office for National Statistics
Estimates of employment, unemployment and economic inactivity for the UK.
www.ons.gov.uk
Population 1997 (Blair) 58.3 million; 2020 (23 years after Blair) 67 million. Increase 8.7 million or 15%
Population 1974 (23 years before Blair) 56.2 million; 1997 58.3 million. Increase 2.1 million or 4%
...and please do me a favour Denso: keep this in your favourites so you don't have to keep asking me.
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So population increase of 8.7m, not 10 million immigrants?
That is why it is important to quote sources, easier to prove how wrong you are.
That is why it is important to quote sources, easier to prove how wrong you are.
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