Another shooting
- Thread starter transam
- Start date
- Status
Sponsored Links
- Joined
- 17 May 2012
- Messages
- 10,782
- Reaction score
- 849
- Country
See how easy it is to change laws to protect people
news.sky.com
Canada plans ban on handgun sales in wake of Texas school shooting
"Other than using firearms for sport shooting and hunting, there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives," Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said.
news.sky.com
- Joined
- 11 Jan 2004
- Messages
- 42,751
- Reaction score
- 2,635
- Country
O..............Kay............
I would hazard a guess 200 kids could be killed in a single incident by a gunman in the states, and there still wouldn't be significant movement towards a significant tightening up on legislation, let alone any sort of ban.See how easy it is to change laws to protect people
Canada plans ban on handgun sales in wake of Texas school shooting
"Other than using firearms for sport shooting and hunting, there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives," Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said.
They've got themselves into a right pickle with this. Guns, held legally or illegally, are so widespread in that country, you can understand why law abiding citizens don't want to give theirs up, cause they'll still be surrounded by people that haven't.
Sponsored Links
It turns out that Andy Murray survived the Dunblane UK school shooting. He was 8. It seems from his comments that kids in the USA do get under the table practices. Bit like fire drills.
Good on Canada. It doesn't take much more to get to the level the UK has. That costs though but the shooter pays the fees. This includes pistol shooting or did last time I was aware but limits on the guns. Actually a deer hunter here can buy and own higher calibre stuff but I think there is no chance of buying one with a magazine but not sure.
One thing I find odd about the USA is calling autoloading guns semi automatic. Seems a full automatic is a machine gun. Perhaps they'd like to sell those too. That sort of pistol is also used for target shooting.
It also seems that if laws are passed in this area they grandfather it. This seems to mean that it only applies to new sales. Saves doing buy back schemes. There has been talk of changes to one form of gun that can be bought and used in the UK. Owners think that they wont happen due to having to buy back if banned. It's a type that shooters have mixed views about. Part of that was commercial shooting when some one dug a shallow pit and called it a range to make money. People walking around shooting at things. I do think that has been stopped.
Good on Canada. It doesn't take much more to get to the level the UK has. That costs though but the shooter pays the fees. This includes pistol shooting or did last time I was aware but limits on the guns. Actually a deer hunter here can buy and own higher calibre stuff but I think there is no chance of buying one with a magazine but not sure.
One thing I find odd about the USA is calling autoloading guns semi automatic. Seems a full automatic is a machine gun. Perhaps they'd like to sell those too. That sort of pistol is also used for target shooting.
It also seems that if laws are passed in this area they grandfather it. This seems to mean that it only applies to new sales. Saves doing buy back schemes. There has been talk of changes to one form of gun that can be bought and used in the UK. Owners think that they wont happen due to having to buy back if banned. It's a type that shooters have mixed views about. Part of that was commercial shooting when some one dug a shallow pit and called it a range to make money. People walking around shooting at things. I do think that has been stopped.
No one uses the terms 'self loading rifle' or autoloading. They're antiquated terms. SLR was a thing around the 1980s in the UK because that's what the army called the L1A1.
Civilians can use magazine fed large calibre rifles in the UK. It's regulated but target shooting is legal and they may be acceptable for pest control.
Semi automatic .22 is also apparently legal.
Shooting ranges are regulated. You can't just dig a pit and declare people can shoot firearms there. Some sport shooting 'practical shotgun' for example requires you moving to and shooting from different firing positions. I think they're a bit odd but it is still legal.
I am not going to go through this lot again but suspect the magazine relates to one built into a gun. It's not easy to reload it. But as I said not sure.
www.legislation.gov.uk
SLR etc. As I said I can't see the point in the change. The 22 rim fire slr is allowed probably specifying some other aspects of the gun relating to size. The range that something was done about was a commercial enterprise where a pit ~6ft deep was dug and permission given. Slugs were leaving it. I've shot at a military range and a club range - things are rather different. Both cleared for any calibre. UK FAC's and the home office have some provisions for controlling what can be shot and where.
|If you take pump action shot guns as an example the UK limit them to 5 shots. The only people who seem to be interested in them is farmers. That from a farmer I know. Common way of killing fox with the right cartridge. There was a pub near B'ham where a payment allowed people to go into a room and blast melons etc with one.
I have shot a lever action - a winchester. Can't remember how many shots it held but they can be owned.
Firearms Act 1968
An Act to consolidate the Firearms Acts 1937 and 1965, the Air Guns and Shot Guns, etc. , Act 1962, Part V of the Criminal Justice Act 1967 and certain enactments amending the Firearms Act 1937.
SLR etc. As I said I can't see the point in the change. The 22 rim fire slr is allowed probably specifying some other aspects of the gun relating to size. The range that something was done about was a commercial enterprise where a pit ~6ft deep was dug and permission given. Slugs were leaving it. I've shot at a military range and a club range - things are rather different. Both cleared for any calibre. UK FAC's and the home office have some provisions for controlling what can be shot and where.
|If you take pump action shot guns as an example the UK limit them to 5 shots. The only people who seem to be interested in them is farmers. That from a farmer I know. Common way of killing fox with the right cartridge. There was a pub near B'ham where a payment allowed people to go into a room and blast melons etc with one.
I have shot a lever action - a winchester. Can't remember how many shots it held but they can be owned.
There are 2 forms of air rifle shooting where that is done. Some positions are easier than others Pretty popular as well if people can do it.
I think moving around figures with 22 rimfier slr as well. This was one of the aspects that some were not happy about with the pit range I mentioned. In fact pretend to play soldiers doesn't go down well with a lot of shooters. Some did like shooting these guns in the club I joined. The only time I saw them was for maybe a month in the summer but there was more control on what people could do.
- Joined
- 7 Jan 2010
- Messages
- 13,081
- Reaction score
- 3,020
- Country
Gun laws in US don't affect only US citizens.
I invite everyone to watch the episode of "Trafficked" about firearms.
Basically all weapons used by Mexican cartels and south Americans in general, are from the US and they cross the border virtually unchecked.
Then we all know the misery the cartels' business bring to the world.
I invite everyone to watch the episode of "Trafficked" about firearms.
Basically all weapons used by Mexican cartels and south Americans in general, are from the US and they cross the border virtually unchecked.
Then we all know the misery the cartels' business bring to the world.
- Joined
- 25 Jul 2022
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 676
- Country
.
- Joined
- 25 Jul 2022
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 676
- Country
Any examples you can give us?
Shotguns on a section 2 licence, may hold a maximum of 3 shots.
Shotguns on a section 1 licence can hold 10 cartridges, they are mainly used for practical shotgun competitions.
.22lr semi automatics have removable magazines, I have seen magazines that can hold 25 shots.
- Status
Sponsored Links
